Around the time following Wu-Tang Clan’s 8 Diagrams, a disgruntled faction of the Wu was rumored to be releasing an album titled Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang. That project never came to fruition. However, Raekwon – who originally came up with the title Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang – opted to use the name for himself for his fifth studio album…and here we are.
The origin of the name comes from the martial arts film of the same title. This very film inspired the Wu to come up with their group name, and soundbytes from the film are dispersed all throughout Wu-Tang’s debut album, 1993’s Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers). A title of that magnitude would suggest that Raekwon would be bringing his formula back to Day One. That statement is partially true.
Raekwon could arguably be considered one of the most consistent members of Wu-Tang, next to Ghostface Killah. Throughout the tenure of his career, Rae has dabbled with various means of making his art more commercially viable, yet still remaining true to his craft. While mainstream acceptance was something Raekwon never really experienced until now (with the Justin Bieber/Kanye West “Runaway Love” 
remix situation), his method worked. It worked so well that his previous effort OB4CL2 , the follow-up to the classic Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, topped the charts its first week of release, competing with Jay-Z’s legacy Blueprint III. While Cuban Linx 2 was flooded with extra concerned effort to be equally as good as its predecessor, Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang throws caution to the wind. The collaborations aren’t calculated (though some might appear to be), and the project is about one RZA short of achieving almost a whole Wu-Tang appearance.
Production-wise, Raekwon enlisted a variety of producers (Erick Sermon, Scram Jones, Alchemist, Evidence, etc.), who all ironically manage to capture the Wu-Tang sound that RZA perfected, without having RZA actually present. Of course Wu-Tang beat stalwarts Allah Mathematics and Bronze Nazareth check in for the harps-infused “Dart School” and the extremely “Wu” “Butter Knives”, respectively. There are a number of dream collaborations, some more “dreamier” than others. The veterans on this project all bring their A-game, perhaps with the understanding that Raekwon is in fact consistent and in order to compete on the track, they have to dust off their rhyme books. Busta Rhymes is Leaders of the New School lyrical on “Crane Style” , while Nas is Nasty Nas on “Rich and Black” (prod. Sean C & LV). Even Black Thought – who for the most part has always managed to remain on top of his game – goes the extra mile for “Masters of Our Fate”. Raekwon has his pocket of mainstream rappers as well, with Jim Jones joining Ghost and Rae on the DJ Khalil-produced “Rock N Roll” , Lloyd Banks on the Scram Jones-produced “Last Trip to Scotland” and Rick Ross on the already famous “Molasses” (with Ghostface). However, one of the strongest tracks on Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang lacks the fancy features, as Inspectah Deck blasts through “Chop Chop Ninja” with the hook-handling given to UK siren, Estelle.
While Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang at face value might not be the most agreeable title for Raekwon’s album, a closer look would prove it’s actually perfect. The work competes against itself – taking the old school lessons learned from the first encounter with Shaolin and teaming them with the new school version of Wu-Tang (the fame, the films, the Justin Bieber collaborations). In all, it works, but in a way that only the Chef could pull off.
the cheffff is that dude man
DOPE DOPE DOPE
it’s a classic to me ! best rap album i’ve ever heard in a decade !!!
I don’t no about decade bro but it’s hot hot hot
There are overwhelmingly people who like this album and a handful who had these horrible comments. This clearly shows that the review is off. Albums like Recovery will considered perfect while real albums don’t get any love. All artists are looking for some pop appeal, but Rae tried to give us a theme and bring that sound back and I applaud him. Kathy Landoli clearly can’t be a Wu Tang fan, and it shows. There are way too many people who disagree with you, I would rethink how I write these reviews
@kathi iandoli
fucked up review
i eat your pussy bitch
You wish.
WE EAT FISH …TOSS SALADS AND MAKE RAP BALLADS!!!!!
Wait what?! You rate it a 3.5 but i didn’t see ONE piece of negative criticism on the album. I don’t fucking understand this website. Do you even read these comments? Because I suggest you do. Your readers are trying to tell you something: YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED.
Way too positive to be a 3.5, it’s a 4 at worst, 8.5/10 seems fair to me, the album is haulted by weak tracks like Rock N Roll and Dart School but the rest is hot as shit.
This album is fucking fire 3.5 this nigga is crazy but for me it’s dope all the way
Sick of this immature Wu-Tang nonsense. You’re not ninjas, for the last time!! Need some grown up music. Childish album
Wow, what a grown ass comment…
I say what everybody thinks here: stfu!!
Please. I know everyone bums the Wu and everything they do, but it’s time people opened up their eyes. Just cos they’re pioneers doesn’t mean people shouldn’t question their content. Not exactly inspiring today’s youth are they.
Get a life and enjoy the good music!
lol…this aint christian rap….open up your mouth…the name of the album is called shaolin vs wutang…there is a theme to this shit…do some fuckin research and open up your fuckin mouth cum dump
bitch….stop it. Jus me calling you a bitch should tell you what i think of ur opinions. go listen to muthafuckin O Jays…
LOL WHAT A 3.5???
KATHY THE FUCK IS YOU ON MA??
NAH MEAN LIKE WTF BABY I THOUGHT U WAS COOL MAMI
MAN FUCK THIS A FIVE MA
(looks like someone is on therd period!)
I STILL LOVE U BABY BUT SHIT GOTTA CHANGE WORD IS BOND MA! CONTROL YOUR EMOTIONS
Nice joke DX…stupid retarded idiots!
3.5 for that is a shame!!
Anyways the rating from the fans says it all!
This is a quality album. I’ll cop it. This review is incongruent with the rating (does anyone proofread these?)
4.25/5.
Fuck this rating.As someone mentioned before this is album’s rating should be at least 4.I rate 8.5/10.
You should rate it against most shit out today and give it a 5
Just being honest, wu doesn’t cater to woman, why in the fuck is a girl reviewing this, what a shame!
you must be 17.
Hey Daz,
I’ve been writing about Hip-Hop for over ten years. I can have ovaries and discuss a Hip-Hop album better than you can with my eyes closed and fingers removed.
Keep referring to yourself as a member of the Dogg Pound. You clearly know what’s hot.
Thanks for the love.
Hey Kathy, I need a part time job. 🙂 …seriously tho, I do. I’d love to write some reviews or do some articles.
Rick, send me your clips. (music@hiphopdx.com)
yeah rick send her your clips therefore both of you would be able to cum on some lady gaga albums and shit on some real rap music
seriously, just read some of your comments from both you clowns and you perfectly match with each other
^^^ You dumb idiot. I’ll school you in hip hop little kid! Loosen your bra strap. Underground is so 1990’s. Your probably one of them dudes talking all this madness about it being a classic and Wu tang this Wu Tang that but wont even buy the album. MY KNOWLEDGE WEIGHTS A TON……beeeeeyatch!
@Ricky
no you wont “school” me in hip-hop. two reasons : first, someone calling himself ricky cannot be taken seriously, second, your point about the quality of this album is totaly out of sight, you definitely missed somethin
and as far as the little “kid” thing i bet you was shittin in your pampers when the wu stepped in the industry
but hey, i cant blame you, it’s your business if you and kathy want to eat each other’s pussy
at least admit it instead of posting some bullshit about how you school people on hip-hop and therefore considering your judgment is on point
dont holla back faggot cause you’re wasting my time
haha! alright man. I didnt say “school people” I said “I’LL SCHOOL YOU”. Now sit your ass down cause class is in session.
The only song ive heard so far has been Batter Knives…Ive seen all these leaks but refuse to listen to them. Im going 1990’s muthafuckas!!!Cant wait to purchase it tomorrow $7.99 @ bestbuy niggas…BUY THAT SHIT if youre “REALLY a supporter.
This album is classic shoul be a 4 WTF hhdx you said it was perfect!
I’ve only listened to a few tracks. Heat rocks so far. Im waiting until this drops tomorrow. Support real hip hop people!!!
I grabbed the iTunes version this time, to get the 2 bonus tracks.
SUUUUUUU!!!
Love this album,but two problems
1. Meth seems like he’s running out of material. Rick Ross’s cameo was better than all of meth’s. Too bad because Meth Usually steps up his game when he appears on other Wu members’ albums
2. ERIC SERMON!! Eric Sermon’s beats have been shit for at least 6 years. He has no business producing anymore. He’s done
All in all good album, not as good as GFK’s appollo kids. 3.5 stars from me
I saw the rating and was like: “fuck.. Rae failed to bring it”. Then read the review – stupefied.
Dear reviewer, please explain what the album lacks. “The work competes against itself” – that doesn’t sound bad, what’s wrong?
Playful competition, not battling against itself to the point of destruction. I loved the album.
Great album, copped two copies today, one for me and my brother. I love the album, on par with Cuban Linx 2. Great Wu-Tang style, even if I miss RZA and he would make the album give it the extra push it needs. Still a banger, and I’ll give it 5 stars.
Wu Chant is a great way to end the album, telling everyone that Wu-Tang is still alive. Legends in the game, forever and always.
This review is fucked-up
The album is rated by a circle of editors. Please stop asking me why I rated the album a 3.5. My words should explain how I personally felt about the album. Thank you.
I guess by your review rating should be higher,maybe you should talk to those other editors and kick them in the ass for us
It’s a lousy review, can’t believe you rated it 3.5 …
Someone should get the chair for allowing you to rate this album, Kathy.
kathy this is the chef …. do your fuckin homework before u review albums like this…what a fuckin hot mouth you have for doing such a shitty job on this roof…the wu should gangbang your dumb ass then toss you in a dark corner covered in cum and piss you fuckin idiot…4 stars at least…i would have given your hot mouth 3.5 stars
Just sayin, look at all the love she gave to the estelle joint, there are way better tracks than that, but she loves that one and I’m sure estelle is the reason, there’s no love songs on here, this is violent
Disagree with the rating. Deserves atlest 4 stars. Can’t disagree with your review b/c you didn’t review anything. Thanks for wasting me time Kathy.
Just finished listening to the album and RAE SMASHED IT AGAIN!! another classic, dnt understand y DX only rated it 3.5! its worth the money i spent on the album
hahaha WOW!! Everyone has there OWN taste. You idiots talking shit to the reviewER are dumb. Im sure you like a CD that other people dont. Are you dumb for liking it, nope. thats just your taste man. Shit, to be honest with you. OBFCL2 was WAAAAAYYY overrated. …..DONT BELEIVE THE HYPE !!!!!!!!!!
dont be mad cuz no one wanna hear ur faggot rap. talk bout sumthin u know bout.
shit is a let down.
YES! See thats what ive been waiting to see. hahah Everyone seems to jump on the bandwagon. Once someone says ITS A CLASSIC, everyone follows like mindless idiots! In the words of DJ Premier..YOU FUCKIN’ ROBOTS!!!!!!!!!!!
correction….your mom is a letdown because she didn’t swallow my jizz
Fire
I totally disagree with this rating and it should be revisited by someone at DX. The album is at a minimum 4 stars but more closer to 4.5. The album is missing that classic Rae energy when he attacked the mic back the early 90s but it is still a dope. Overall, the beats and lyrics are a perfect blend for the overall concept of the album. Butter Knives is ill!
“The album is rated by a circle of editors.”
does this mean nothing to you?
7/10 is more than enough for this album it isnt ill from what ive listened to it has many flaws to get 8 9 or 10 for an album the hit has to be a banger straight through no weak verses or beats
The reviewer needs to step her reviewing game up.. But then again its hhdx n it looks like they are back to giving out contreversial wat da fuk they was drinking reviews
Thats not really organic!
I just read dat she aint give the rating n this only means dat the rrviewers are Joe Budden fanboys STRAIGHT UP!!
Non organic ass niggaz!!!
this is nothing more than a mixtape at best
and your a clown
Super Clown…
i agree with the review, but not the rating. this album brings back a type of rap that has been non-existant, and imo is superior to cuban linx II. raekwon is a top legend, and what this album shows is his lyrical fire along with very solid features, mixed in with that wu-feeling weve all been missing.
Its good but not a classic album. The beats are not top level and not dirty enough. You guys really tell me that there are tracks you will know word-by-word in 10 years like on OB4CL? GTFO! People are too fast calling shit classic these days.
Thats what Im saying man. One dude says its a classic and everyone follows. Kids these days dont know the definition of CLASSIC.
“Timeless, so age don’t count in the booth, and your flow stays submerged in the fountain of youth” – Rakim
I also agree beats are not even authentic and below par. No way a classic you can’t compare this production to RZA’s, Kanyes,preemo,Dilla, or pete rock…to name a few…
wu
What a messed up review this is on par with CL2 !!! hhdx dont know how to rate
It’s not jus
yeap this album is ill
RAE KILLIN THE GAME!
FINNA COP IT TOMMAROW ALONG WITH THE GOAT LUPE FIASCOS LASERS ALBUM!
this shit is flammible. your a duster if you dont like it.
if people love Wu Tang and Raekwons solo music this is a classic WU-Tang album. The beats have that old school WU feel and Raekwon rips every track, only weak track was Rock n Roll which should of been changed but other than that cant complain. Should of been given a 4.5 rating easily.
Best Hip-Hop album of the year so far.
negative…. smh
def best album of the year so far. i dont know what otha album is better. y dont u tell us anonymous?
I think it was a great review honestly, I copped this the other day on the net and listened to it, I loved how they brought back the movie clips in a strong way, some of the beats were a little off though, But there was definitely some Bangers on it too, I kept feeling something was off about the flows, they sound too relaxed and manufactured which came to light greatly when ghostface appeared and made it exciting to listen to for that one verse..I’ll give it 3 no halfs, and no it doesn’t hold a candle to the original obfcl
Yup, I totally agree. Rae’s verses sound to relaxed. The production sometimes overpowers his voice. He doesnt have the same emotion that GFK brings to each and every track.
total insanity!
Rae isnt an emotional rapper, he rides the beat…relaxed and soulful…but GFK and Busta on a song and ud have to say that about GFK cause Busta does that style better than him…Rae trumps Ghost lyrically all day tho
TRASH
MOOD MUZIK 4.5 ALL DAY. JOE BEEZY^^^^
I fucked your mother the other day, she said she was very disappointed in you and your taste in music.
Get the fuck outta here with that Joe Budden shit. Rae already humiliated him, crying on live blog with ice on his eye. Fucking faggot, angelo latino wannabe nigga.
man shut up
lol…yea this daddy yankee ass nigga is out of his fuckin mind…lol all i can do is laugh at some of these comments
u a fuckstick. end of story.
This is sad! I’m counting like maybe 5 original beats over every other beat that has been refurbished and ripped off by the RZA. This is some real on the low dart throwing towards RZA wanabe production and lack luster rhymes. Substance Rea – you’re missing it! dude, you’re too old to be talking gutter – life is about evolution: growth and development. I can’t stand grown ass dudes that have kids and grand kids still talking like ignorant teenagers – that was ’92 Rea come on!
Every other track is literally missing something! The first and fifth track reminds me of Killah Army beats. Second track is Meth’s first BlackOut album. Third track is from Old Dirty Bastard shit – etc, etc, etc! Are you fucking kidding me – I’m Not feeling this mix tape shit!!! Old beats over a singing chorus doesn’t cut an ill album for me! This album shows and proves the War of separation between Wu Members. The RZA is the only one that can make a complete ill beat dealing with Wu’s chemistry admixt with karate flix. Rea is gritty over Kol-Aid beats.
Horrible comment , you guys really dont know quality music. It does not have to have RZA all over it to be classic. 8 diagrams was horrible. This album is great and some of you so called fans are probably not fans at all. Wu Tang Forever
Raekwon has truely delivered and come through for real fans once again,you can add this as one of the best rap albums for decades.
I gotta commend the brother for pulling off something like this without the RZA and now we really forget about that horrible album 8 Diagrams forever, peace!
these cats cant just say they gonna do a Wutang album because that was not their vision…. The RZA made these cats who they are… any album they do without the rza is always gonna be suspect to me
NEWS (please read this): Hip-HopDx is a little off the mark with this review, but at least they care enough about the music to follow up this review with some thoughtful remarks. Hell, I bet Kathy Iandoli, if given the chance, would have likely awarded the album at least a 4.0, if not a 4.5 Like she already mentioned, the rating is decided by the staff COLLECTIVELY!! And in their breaking news section, they proclaimed (word for word):
“Another good album from Rae, very close to getting another 1/2 X from us”
In addition, regardless of how much hostility I may recieve for saying this, the same rating (3.5) was given to East Coast Avengers second album ‘Airwaves’. IMHO that album deserved a 4.5 and is greater than Raekwon’s in terms of lyrics, production, and substance!!!! (posting a full review soon)….
This is a 4 at the bare minimum.
Glad to see HipHopDX (allegedly) has thought to go back and revise their rating.
Moral of the story: Don’t f*** up in the first place. This should not have happened to begin.
And to whoever said this album sucks or is average… Your mother should have swallowed you.
Gone.
I enjoyed the album. But I have to say that some songs are just not on the level. I mean damn, Rae has ears like everybody right ?!
So I dont understand the presence of some of the songs, and by that I mean :
– Dart School which is fucking up the end of the album
– Every Soldier which is weak too, especially as a second song.
– From the hills, just no feeling this one with a half assed verse from Meth and a so so beat.
I mean when you put these songs next to a “Butter knives”, a “Masters of our fate”, a “Molasses” or a “Crane Style” you can see pretty fast that it s not on the level of quality that we could expect.
So yeah I would have taken out these songs.
Overall good album though.
Peace.
agreed 100%… these cats cant just say they gonna do a Wutang album because that was not their vision…. The RZA made these cats who they are… any album they do without the rza is always gonna be suspect to me
^^^ So all of GFK albums are suspect? Come on. GFK is the ONLY member keeping the WU alive…WITHOUT RZA production. c’MON SON!
RZA has the vision, it s true. But I understand Rae here, cause sometimes RZA’s visions are blurry (hello 8 diagrams).
Plus nowadays, almost every producer can bring a wu feel to a beat, because this style has been out for so long.
Any vision aside, I think that maybe Rae has some Yes-men around him – pure speculation of course – but that may explain some songs on the tracklist.
Peace.
this is silly boys like yall get shit twisted its a concept album of 2 diff sides/styles…half the tracks are pose to sound diff but at the same time still Rae, the Wu is all of them, not just the Rza…he brought the beats they brought rhymes, Rza hasent been beat dominant since WTF…fact is, Rza is not a necessity for a solo artist album, neither are all of the brothers…”Every Soilder” is top 3 trax on the album
classic album, fuck this rating.
5 star album.
Love this album. Rae on his shit, dope beats, dope features, cohesive album etc.
5/5.
WU MUTHAFUCKAZ!
Raekwon, keeps delivering….
I’m one of the biggest Wu fans out there, and i have to be real – this album is good but not great.
36 Chambers gets 5 stars
OBFCL gets 5 stars
OBFCL2 gets 4 stars
This album gets 3.5
the chief
The album is great as a whole. 8.5/10 but I’m giving it 5 stars here for effort. If this is Rae’s response to 8 Diagrams, he’s clearly winning. Charlie Sheen would be proud.
NICE!
3 and a half?!
haha
dx does it again. stop reviewing albums, you faggots out the closet now. chef delivered a classic.
what other nigga, at 40, still dropping gutter heat like this? ghostface, g rap, and raekwon. whats nas up to? nothin, or albums with marley. love nas. but come on. chef still rhyming raw uncut, over bangers. real nigga. real hip hop. real music. incredible album, terrible review.
4 Stars. There ain’t a bad cut on this entire album
rae gets a 5 from me come on HHDX what a bullshit review, this was a 4 who else is releasing this kind of musci after 15 years not jayz not nas not none of them RAE is next level, shallah raekwon be cookin up some marvelous shit aw shit best album of the year
dope album, straight dope beats & rhymes with a couple surprise
HOW DOES THIS ALBUM GET 3.5 ? THIS ALBUM IS BANOODLESS!!! ..I AINT GONNA LIE AND A LOT OF YALL MIGHT GET A LIL TOO SENSITIVE BUT SHIT I PREFER TH SOUND ON THIS ALBUM T OBFCL 2 REAL TALK CHEF DID HIS HOME WORK ON THIS
damn, already copped on preorder & on its way to the crib along with “lasers” from the homie lupe….indeed the chef came with it on this disc cant wait to digest it through ears
WonDough$ practices JUDO. JU..DOnt know what I got in my pockets
LOL @ the delusional Wu Fans mad when everything they drop doesnt get a 5 rating
Albums dope, I’d of gave it a 4 but it aint his best work by a long shot
long as i think its dope i could care less wut the rating is….n from wut i’ve heard….no disappointments!!
THIS IS HIP-HOP!!!
Listen children! Ah, now that’s how real hip hop sound’s.
Might be better than ob4cl2
idk man….if anything it might be just as good, we’ll see tho. i kno i’m amped about it after lupe let me down
last train to scotland was sick!! rae and banks one of the best story tellers in the game
better than lasers atleast we have this album
4.5 stars, is a great album, WU, WU, WU, WU
We all agree that the rating sucks right!?!
But for me, the whole review is trash. How and why the project was done, everybody knows it for 2 years now. And thank you for describing who has a guest verse, didn’t know that! Come on, that’s a terrible amateur review!
Rae, thank you for another headbanger! Gonna bump the Wu forever!!!!
a real wu album dope dope dope dope .
I don’t understand how this reviewer can only rate it 3.5, but can’t manage to give one example of a weak spot on the album. It deserves a 4. Journalists have to start being more on point with scores they give some of these albums. It’s more important than they realise.
Learn how to spell you dumb fuck!! The word is realize!!
Yo, if he’s UK english, then its realise… Americans ruined the damn language! So who’s the dumb fuck now?! Dumb fuck!
holla at me man, check my video and gimme some feed back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-4EshJsc94
Hey man… nice thoughts.
I think the critics might rethink before they write opinions down. Sometimes DX ecpects more than what the artist is built of. Raekwon is a legend in Hip Hop music industry and he should be repsected all the way. If this album had been filled with Waynes and Manes than I might reconsider my comment, but come on man, a Wu Tang member like Raekwon,he knows what he’s doin’. 5 stars…
DOPE
last trip to scotland is my fav track!!!! rae and banks are one of the best story tellers in history
In history? you better be kidding? do some soul seacrhing cuz you don’t know shit obviously. Must not know the art of story telling.
Chef has cooked another fine dish.
So Eminem’s trashy album gets 4 stars….Joell Ortiz’s awfully mediocre album gets 4.5….and this gets 3.5….how does that work? HHDX don’t have a clue sometimes, stop comparing all Rae’s shit to Cuban Linx!
Recovery is better. Lyrically, honesty and energy wise
just shaolin v wutang got much better production and guests
Recovery is better? stfu faggot. Go back to playing love the way you lie with your corny pop bullshit. Em sold out, I don’t play anything of his past the eminem show.
What anon said, Recovery was pure ass crack, idiot.
Chop chop Ninja fiyah. Shallar wavin that Wu flag. Wu tang yo, Soooo! Represent
By the way, anybody else seen the NME review? It is fucking hilarious, she literally picks 3 tracks she doesn’t like then gives the album 2/10.
yer i see that nme review n woz lyk wtf this bitch is narrow minded n probly only listened to the first 10 secs of 4 tracks n was lyk i dont lyk. n were was the review for each track? dumb fukin punk rock faggots!
I know, anything that ain’t indie shit is automatically “cringe-worthy” to those faggots.
lol word that bitch need a new career.
Really can’t understand what everyone’s yelling about.
Ghostface Killah’s “Apollo Kids” is twice as good as this but gets next to no recognition.
Rae just shouts louder about his records.
I think they are on about the same level but yeah I see what your saying, I think Rae is just hot at the minute, all the work with Kanye, Lloyd Banks, Curren$y, Yelawolf, Rick Ross etc. More people are obviously gonna hear this.
stop that! Imma Ghost fan and that album aint that good, it has no flow, its all over the place, Ghost be soundin off beat and to be quite frank i think dude lost a step
better than lupes album….
album is dope !Its got a few filler tracks but it fits the concept style of the album.
I got it in rotation a few times its an album i can listen too from start to finish.
But it gets better everytime i listen to it again.
WE GOT THE RZA, THE GZA, OL DIRTY BASTARD INSPECTAH DEC, REAEKWON THA CHEF, GHOSTFACE KILLAH, U-GOD, MASTA KILLA AND THE M-E-T-O-D MAN. \\REA WU SHIT RITE HERE
NOW THEY NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER FULL WU ALBUM LIKE ENTER THE 36, THAT SHIT IS WAZZUP.
KEEP IT COMIN
I can play this all the way through without skipping anything. It’s flawless in my book.
i cant mess w Chop Chop Ninja, or maybe it just didnt grow on me yet lol…other than that, im beyond pleased!
sorry but I’m gonna buy this shit instead of lazers.
I bought both. Support talent.
$WonDough$ is only built for strong linx
“Raekwon could arguably be considered one of the most consistent members of Wu-Tang, next to Ghostface Killah.”
Come on now, this is just wrong. Immobiliarity and Lex Diamond Story were awful and sub par, respectively.
Do the math.
If the reviewer’d have mentioned GZA instead, well…
co-sign. Rae wasn’t even part of the consistency discussion until after OB4CL2
yall are silly stupid, none of them were even makin albums cept Rae n Ghost, ill be real lex Diamonds was trash but Immobilarity was a solid album, ppl just cried cuz it didnt have Rza beats…lets be real, verse wise Rae been the illest in the Wu, he’s never came wack…now he got his own shit and is prob makin more money off his last 2 albums than Ghost whole catalog, Rae is the only one gettin better w time!
shit was aite it was aite you know what im sayin. but real talk its kind of a tease, whats with all the 2min and 2 1/2 min tracks, and when did it become okay for a full length album to only run 45 min, fuckin wack , it sounds more like a mixtape, they did that with wu masssacre 2, and that song with nas aint even a real collab, the beat and nas’s verse is over 2 years old
Since when did quantity reflect quality dumbass?
listen to hip hop albums in the 90s even early 2000s, a cd was at least an hour and every song jammed, nowadays its 4 or 5 jams and a bunch of filler, this cd, wu massacre, blackout 2, reggie are prime examples of that, dumb ass
You guys are to critical, this was good album period, these comments make me think that you never loved rap, this shit is authentic
Everybody wanna be a critic. If you like it fine download it or buy it (preferred). If you dont like it fine, but just know the WU gets respect for keeping HIP HOP alive. Im not a big WU fan but I know what they have brought to HIP HOP. I know I dont like every WU album, why could you with so many, but I still respect them.
Also, respect the reviewer (someone being paid by hiphopDX.com not someone who listens to alot of HIP HOP and think they know something about it), they have a job to do and their own opininon. Dont blame them. Most good and/or classic albums were not given 5 mics/stars when it was reviewed at first, but only time will tell. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(magazine)
Definitely a five-star album! Between the beats and the cocaine-laced lyrics, the chef Raekwon served up another helping that the masses will devour! http://rhymesandpolitics.com/?p=1108
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Every song HHDX dropped from Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang has not been rated less than a 4 by the listeners………but the overall review is a 3.5?? What songs brought this album down to a 3.5?? I’d give it a solid 4, not better than OB4CL2 but his 3rd best by far
deep
Raekwon bringing real hip hop back! Every track is a banger.
Raekwon has delivered yet another solid album. It good to see Wu back in effect, and between Rae and Ghost they holding it down all by themselves. I did like Only Built for Cuban 2 better but this is still a great album. No complaints. So who the best now, Rae or Ghost?
neither 1, meth is the best, but of those 2 ghost is light years ahead of rae
This is REAL nyc rap.
It deserves 5 stars easy, you all are way off giving it only 3.5
FIRE… NUFF SAID… Beatz banging, Rae on it lyrically… And no Rza, don’t even trip. Im all for cats gettin that production from other hungry cats, if it’s heat its heat reguardless who produces it.. dope album!
We Miss “Only Built for Cuban Linx…”
solid album!!! the concept works, only thing is some of the features couldnt keep up w Rae but he’s elite so thats gonna happen…
This is atleast 4 stars! We living a Wu-renaissance, no skippable tracks. Straight fire
“[Producers]who all ironically manage to capture the Wu-Tang sound that RZA perfected”
what? capture that wu sound? what wu sound? just because it has a couple of kung fu samples doesn’t make this album one with a “wu-tang sound”. What wu sound? 36 chambers? cuban linx? liquid swords? wu tang forever?…this album doesn’t sound like any of those fucking albums so what exactly is this wu tang sound you speak of.
yeh, there are a couple tracks though (you can tell by the bassline and the obscure sampling where it’s borderline annoying but dope none the less and it’s mainly the one’s produced by the wu-disciples including the scram jones beats(cilvaringz, allah math and bronze naz). so yeh, i can see what they mean by it.
People complaining, what more could you possibly ask for. Remember this is’nt a clan album like the first cuban linx. It’s mainly Raekwon the chef going dolo throughout the album minus masta killa, GZA and deck, he’s been killing it with those mix cds this way since 06
exactly what im sayin, so he shoulda jus released it as a mixtape, this isnt an album 2 me
you have to pay for quality!
i usually agree with dx’s reviews for the most part, but i really feel like they had the wrong person reviewing this album. she didn’t really mention any negative aspects of the album and gave it a 3.5, while the reks review mentioned 3 or 4 tracks that weren’t up to par and it still got a 4. also, i dunno what album she’s listening to if “chop chop ninja” is one of the strongest tracks. it’s definitely one of the bottom 2 or 3 tracks on this album. not that it’s terrible but it doesnt compare to the rest of the cd
for real, wu-tang never really was for the females anyway (yeh i know they got some of their soul songs and shit but 8 out of 10 wu fans are male…)
Seriously features by LLoyd Banks, Rick Ross and Jim Jones…….NOOO!!!!! I WANT WU-TANG!!!!! NOT THESE COMMERCIAL MAINSTREAM RAPPERS on a Raekwon album.
ok man. calm down! Its NOT your album.
I agree, complete wackness in the guest spot department. The album result isnt what it should have been either, way to uneven. pz.
Agree with the rating 3.5. Expected a little more but my hype died down with Rikkys apperance anyway. On to the next.
Quit your bitching people, this is a solid lp. Period. Lets see any one of you put in work for 18 yrs and still sound this tight.
Exactly! not even Nas name has been ringin out in the last few yrs and he’s the goat, i give Rae all the credit!
by the way, Erick Sermon never produced that track- it was actually made by Oh No as seen on the twitter accounts of alchemist and oh no themselves…
i really like this album
hhdx got this well wrong this ish was classic 4.5 as good as CL2
for real, they didn’t even mention cilvaringz or the method man features…fuck a review
I give this 3 while I would rate OB4CBL II at 4-4.5. To me, it was way better than this one.
Dope album Rae thanks 4 givin us that raw sound!! The Cilvaringz track is bananas it has that true blue Wu vintage sound
Wu tang 4 life
$WonDough$ is King Cobra in a snake pond
yo this shit is 5 stars kathy good review didnt even mention any of the tracks I used to respect this shity ass website fuck it look at the reader raitng thats the TRUE STORY
the album is classic!!
I found it meh, good but definitely not a must have
owww that “LAST TRIP TO SCOTLAND” is fire, rae and banks went hard as hell on that one def my fav joint. album is 4*
this album is of the hook another classic no doubt rae has got to be in every top 10 list of all time now with gza and ghostface and meth WU TANG FOREVER can it be it was all so simple??
best album of 2011 so far… Rae is keeping the WU alive. this album is crazy!!
This shit is a 4.5 or 4 at least. only reason id take a point off is because of JIM JONEs….
Album knocks. My favorite MC Banks on there n Rae STILL got the format. Gunit/Wu no other two groups I’d take, except them boys from Yonkers. Real hip hop thx Rae.
Big up to Rae for puttin’ Lloyd Banks on the album!
The album is rock solid. A very good one.
Rae is still the chef of the rap game.
i think this is gonna be the biggest downloaded album in history
this one’s better than CUBAN LINX 2
It took me a minute to get rock n roll
It feels like WU so im happy
YEAAA
hes a sellout, fuckin justin beiber really
your are a idiot
love this album its crazy!! get well soon nate dogg
this album is unbelievable. perfection
This is bullshit. This album is something like 4 to 4.5 stars.
Poor review.
yall want to hear that real shit, shyhiem and cap,from kill arm, called the strength, thats the hard core, this is what it was, a painting on the wall, nothing more, nothing less, so obv theres so much more to come, 3 and a half stars!
he didnt like rzas production on their last album because it didnt sound like old wu but now he does songs with kanye and justin beiber with house trance sounding beats that are gay i dont understand, some booty
correct me if i’m wrong but those are the clans songs…he’s talkin bout a Wu album clearly he isnt gonna change that.
This is what the game is missing. five stars
Fuck this review and fuck hiphopdx. Go buy the album. Talking about RZA and all this just keeps Rae trapped in a corner. You don’t need to see those stars(especially when you know there’s money made in these “reviews”) to see that this is fire. Support a legend.
Raekwon is one of the best story tellers in hip-hop today. I like this album a lot i have saw a lot of reviews and a lot of people are not feeling it. I know everybody wants another cuban linx and rza producing most of the album. but its a different time and i feel like raekwon just wanted to do something different.You still get the Wu- tang sound but you also get to hear a lot of different producers also. i enjoyed the album a lot and it met my expectations.
Better than both cuban links
Get the fuck outta here dude. Great album, but the first Cuban Linx is one of the best albums ever
Pure Fire!
The only song im not really feelin is dart school the rest r classics
I wish I knew karate dis shot makes me wanna slap a skinny jean Wearin motherfucca
Ya’ll played yourselves by not giving this 4 stars. It’s only two mediocre tracks on this album. I think we need a do-over with this one………………..
This shit is great fuck this site
3.5???????? is hiphopdx on dat charlie sheen shit or what! dis shit is a 4.5 to me! im from the south and still respect great east coast like dis
Great album. Having had Apollo Kids, Lasers, The Greatest Story Never Told and now this, it’s been a pretty good couple of weeks for Hip-Hop.
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I think Kathy Iandoli is salty that the RZA isn’t featured on the album. She sure mentions him a lot during the review, considering the guy isn’t even on the album. I didn’t see much criticism at all in her review, so I’m surprised this album only got 3.5 stars. You’d think with 3.5 stars, she’d have some issues with the album. I’ve seen lots of albums that are rated 3.5, and all of the reviews for them had at least one or two things reviewers complained about. This has pretty much no complaints! So, the only logical conclusion I can think of is that she’s very disappointed this album didn’t have RZA on it.
Almost as good as OB4CL2
It is betta than both of the cuban links and wu forever betta than 36 chambers
Bro you must be on that Charlie Sheen. Wu tang Forever is beyond classic material. 36 Chambers is the reason SHaolin Vs Wu tang Is coming out. Which by the way is one of the best albums I’ve heard in a long time. This man Raekwon Is mastering his craft. I love this album.
This was one tuff album and they did masterfully without RZA
no joke man wtf is wrong with ya DX this albulm is all about what rap should sound like. beats 3.5/5 lyrics 4.5/5 flow 5/5
i dont know who give the rating but man u need to go back and lurn what this rap thing should sound like no joke man real talk.
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after listenin a few times i havta say its just shy of a sleeper classic, ive always loved and understood Raes flow, theres was a cpl tracks he didnt kill it but he smashed the majority of them and bein dude is damn near 41 his lines are still extremely detailed! The beats are good! and the ones that didnt knock crazy went perfect w the concept, features that u wouldnt expect but worked and lastly song placement! if he would have kept the first tracklisting i dont think it would have sounded as good…plus 2 hot itunes cuts, a easy 4, id give it 4.5…almost as good as CL2 and totally different sounding…not to mention the amount of time he made this album and to have another droppin in Oct!
Alright, the only track i had heard before this dropped was Butter Knives. It was a good track but the beat was missing something. So i go and buy this CD yesterday …YES BOUGHT! and gave it a listen. After hearing it all it just wasnt hitting hard towards the end. Besides Molasses. The beats are too repetitious, theyre all at the same speed so it gives it a feeling of ONE LONG TRACK. Rae’s bars are nice as usually…if you understand his slang. But his monotony gets boring. I liked Molasses the most …yes molasses the one with RR. Dude can spit when he wants too. Dude seemed to spit some GFKish slang at the end with his bars. But anyway, this a solid album but nowhere near a classic. I still put Fishscale, Apollo Kids, ahead of this one in terms of being ranked up there with the original solo releases. But seriously, The clan needs to have GFK executive produce their future albums. Dude always selects the best beats. …………oh yeah, this is MY opinion BASTARDS!!!!!!!!
Finally someone talking sense!
Classic.
Fuck Ya’ll
Girls aint like the clan thats why kathy or wotever her name gave this shity ass review, tht bullshit illumanati devil worshiping faggot tight ass jean wearin fashion bitch kanye gt a higher rating than this WTF this is the best album out since CL2 HHDX need to realise real hip hop. In years to come people will look back and be like tht shaolin vs wu tang was a classic word is bond. Were livin a wu renisance for real Its not the russian its the wu tang crushin!!
Not better than the CL albums but definitely what hip-hop needs right now. Bought the album and listened to it 3 times, the replay value is what makes the album so great.
I though Lupe’s “Lasers” was the hip-hop album of the year, that is until Raekwon drop this.
Please support by purchasing this great album.
way better than Cuban Linx 2
What is this review smoking? This album is at least a 4/5. IMO, a 5/5 easily.
THIS IS A MODERN CLASSIC! HOW CAN HE KEEP IT SO WU, YET SO TANGIBLE? IT STAYS TRUE, YET BRANCHES OFF…PERFECTLY. THE WORST SONG IS ROCK N ROLL, AND HONESTLY, A FEW GOOD LISTENS AND IT STARTS TO GROW ON U. OPEN YALL MINDS MAN RAE IS SERVIN UP HIS SPECIALTY. GOT MY SUPPORT WU-THOUSAND AND ELEVEN -2011 PEACE
this album seems similar to ghostface’s apollo kids
I wonder who Raekwon appreciates more, a reviewer who BUYS the album and gives it a 3.5 out of her opinion or someone commenting on hiphopdx.com who gives it a 5 but doesnt buy the album?? Hmmmmm
When people see that its got a 4.48 user rating, that tells other people that see it that this cd is worth every penny, so I say, prolly us
If you buy an album based off of someone elses opinion thats pretty lame, if your a fan of Raekwon buy his shit, if you dont like it or have your own opinion, start a blog/site and write a review.
I am a fan and I did buy, you asked a question and I answered it, this chick cathy isn’t a fan, she got paid to hear this album, why would rae appreciat her?
I didnt say you didnt answer the question fam, i just think people have a lot to say and probably wont even support the man and buy the actual album. She didnt even trash the album, so i dont know why people are getting so bent out of shape, it was her opinion and whoever elses that contributed to the review. And how do you know she isnt a fan? And employees of a company usually do get paid for work, but just b/c “she got paid” doesnt mean she didnt wanna hear the album, buy it and support it. When you become an artist you open up yourself for criticism, thats the name of the game. Reviews are good for this reason, to open up discussion about peoples opinions, not brainwash them into thinking an album is good or bad and telling them to buy it or not. So i think Rae would be appreciative, b/c she is being honest about what she thinks. I think people just need to calm down on here (and im not saying you) and if they are a fan of Rae, go buy the album and make their own decision, but making sexual and ignorant remarks over “stars” to a writer is completely out of line and insane. Like its a review, take it as that, say your peace (respectfully) and keep it moving.
I checked the other album reviews and the only one I’ve listened to was Joel Ortiz. His album is really dope but he it doesn’t compare to Rae’s and they gave Free Agent 4 1/2. Someone at DX must have obviously made a mistake. Make the correction DX.
HHDX people do you have something against Raekwon? I mean come on, you rated that mediocre Joell Ortiz album 4.5? The hell is that? Shady Records writes your checks or what?
Obviously you didnt read OB4CL2 review https://hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.1258/title.raekwon-only-built-4-cuban-linx-ii
or see the contest on the site the other day or all the positive news that is covered on Rae on this site, but yea dx must hate rae lol.
Slaughterhouse wasn’t signed to shady when obcl2 dropped and yes, dx sucks shadys balls!
that comment doesnt even make sense brad, lol what are you talking about??
Is “Dart School” crack, or what?!!
3.5 stars…. really…. 3.5 stars.
thats the same rating u gave Gucci fucking Mane – The State vs Radric Davis
That fact alone means i wont be reading any more of ur album reviews.
you act like hiphopdx makes correct reviews. i dont fuck with them no more after they started dick riding drake. they dont get paid money to give this a good rating thats why they dont. its all politics and i dont fuck with politics in my music. one of the reasons i stoped going to this site much anymore
This and apollo kids are classic album.
This is probably the strongest Album since their hay-day with Supreme Clientele (…and slightly trailing is Linx II) in the same bracket. These 2 Albums could easily be considered as additions to WU’s golden era! 3.5?! This site is losing credibility… Listen to the album b4 u rate it, Jokers!!
your outta ya mind tellin anyone to listen to shit when you jus called this their best album since supreme clientelle lol it isnt even their best THIS YEAR
Apollo Kids
Big Doe Rehab
421
all doper
fire cd for sure!
1. Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang 8.5/10
2.Every Soldier In The Hood 8/10
3.Silver Rings 9.5/10
4.Chop Chop Ninja 7.5/10
5.Butter Knives 8/10
6.Snake Pond 10/10
7.Crane Style 7/10 (Busta fucked up)
8.Rock N’ Roll 7/10 (the hook ruined it)
9.Rich And Black 10/10
10.From The Hills 10/10
11.Last Trip To Scotland 8/10
12.Ferry Boat Killaz 7.5/10
13.Dart School 9/10
14.Molasses 10/10
15.The Scroll 10/10
16.Masters Of Our Fate 8/10
17.Wu Chant (Outro) –
18.Wu Crime 8.5/10
19.Your World & My World 8.5/10
8.6/10 That’s the real rating.
how the fuck you gonna give Rich n Black 10/10 when its a recycled 2 year old song
its originally Sha Stimuli feat Nas and all Rae did was take Sha’s verse off and add his own
I don’t give a fuck.It still sounds good and as a whole no doubt it deserves a 10.
nigga how busta fuck up please tell me
Rae did it again!
Very good album rich and black is the best track masters of the game is a close second
Overall decent album 4stars best release of the year so far
Too bad it will do only about 25k in its 1st week even with all the promo and stuff.Hipsters infiltrated deep in the hip-hop world.
Good album!
this shit is way better than Cuban Linx 2 and it has more replay
I think this is the same level as CL2 yo the kung fu samples in this are ill! this shit was 4.5 yo
hiphopdx continues with the wackest taste, amount of stars is on point for once, but did this dude really call “chop chop ninja” one of the best songs on the album? wtf? that shit is horrible.
To be honest i havent listened from start to finish YET but its not as good as ob4cl2
that album hooked bumped and hooked me straight in One WU album that bumps that was slept on was the manifesto inspectah deck last year get that fire “the real hip hop is over here…..”
How can you make a comparison if you have yet to listen to the album? jackass!
Good album
prolly da best album i eva heard, and i started wit hip hop when i was 4 wit da wu. Shit is dope hands down, n cats dat aint feelin it neva got far on da street level, so ya dont know what he really talkin bout, thas y lames sell records. Im 24 now n i been thru ething da streets had 2 offer, so dis what i vibe 2
you should really listen to every Wu related album pre 1999 as well as every Ghostface and GZA cd. I’m 34 and this cd is a fucking snooze fest.
to dockevoc- well said.
to goldnchild- read a book (preferably non fiction)
im 18 and this is some of the illest shit I have ever heard word, a gues its true WU TANG CLAN AINT NOTHIN TO FUCK WIT
Yo That last trip to scottland joint is SUPER DUPER NICE, love to see two of my favorite artists collaborate The Chef and P.L.K. doin me proud!!
Liked it but Rae can do better
CLASSIC FOR A FOLLOW UP TO CUBAN LINX 2. AS A MODERN WU CLASSIC MINUS THE RZA, TO PROVE HE CAN DO IT. U GOT MY RESPECT AND MY 9.99.
It’s ok but quite underwhelming. Not even one of the top 25 Wu Tang related albums. OB4CLIII coming soon I hope!
I think this album will grow in time.
not as good as cuban linx 1 or 2. but A DOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE album
2md that
good album. 4 stars.
YEP THAT NEW MC EIHT IS DOPE – WHERE U GOIN 2 VIDEO ” COMPTONS MOST WANTED gyeeah
NOwadays classic
NEW CLASSIC
whoever executive produced this is on crack. its dope, but has a few serious problems and weak guest appearences- no not jim jones you cornballs- ricky ross etc, and a few blatent filler joints with wu-tang cats that aint cuttin it. 3.5- cant beleive dx got this 1 right.
After listening to this for about week this album really CAN NOT be touched. This album is a fuckin movie!! If you’re lookin for a banger or two then go listen to something else. If you’re looking for something classic this is your answer. Rae brought it back to the original roots of Wu-Tang. I dunno if there has been a more complete album lately then this. I can’t say a certain track stands out but I can say you won’t skip over a song. It’s just something you gotta listen for yourself to feel.
Better than ob4cl2. He went back to back though
first half of the album is pretty dope. Some filler at the end. But truth of the matter is that reakwon knows what the fans want. Hardcore in your face shit full of Kung-Fu samples. As old and boring his flow might sound at times u can’t hate on rea when he’s doing exactly what weve been asking for. It’s just sad that rza and the rest of the clan rejected jumping on to this project. I mean just Imagine how dope of a wu-tang album this would have been with all remaining members going in hard. Imagine songs like “snake pond” how would it have been if the rest of the clan went in rapping bout some deep shit. Niggas need to get together and make a new album post 8 diagram and really take in concideration rea’s vision cuz that’s what fans want. Not some horrible-ass experimental bob digi shit like the hook on “unpredictable ” from 8 diagrams. Shit still haunts me to this day 4 years later…..
I dont think you grasped the concept entirely. RZA, MASTA KILLA, GZA…they all born in Brooklyn, so was DIRTY. Call me crazy but the RZAs “horrible-ass experimental bob digi shit” on 8D was DOPE. It has mad soul. I also suspect the entire beef was a trick to get people to listen. These are men of vision, chess players. The art of war is that of deception.
“How can hip-hop be dead when Wu-Tang is FOREVER???”
go cop that this shit is a flamer. mite actually b better dan obfcl2.
5/5
Compared to s*it these days it’s no doubt a 5/5.Compared to all time HHDX has it right at 3.5/5/
“He threw a kick at me… I back slapped him and pulled out the mac, he kicked it outta my hand, how real is that?”
“Son think he betta than niggas, I think his rebels is resentful”
“Who care if he a swordsman, Im a gunsman”
All types of subliminal shots fired at RZA.
This album is stellar. Guarantee every collaborator that yall feel shouldnt be on this project expressed deep respect for The Chef as a leader, inovator and inspirator, that why he let them get on. But real talk, Jim Jones needs to put a cork in it. 5/5 regardless.
4/5……. That Rock N Roll track should have been cut from the album. Track didn’t flow right with the rest of the songs
This is a very creative, cohesive sounding album. This will take a lot of listens to get it, but that is what makes it great. Raekwon is one of the best to ever do it
dissapointing
this joint is hotter than cuban linx 2, the beats r better and flow is stronger because of the energy for the beats, rae is a lyricist
this is a good album.this the type of music hiphop needs.i give it a 4.5
Classic
Raekwon cracks into my top 20 emcees with this album.
raekwon is defo a top 10 if not one the top 3 nas,ghotface and rae this shit is so ill
No lie Boss, I was feeling the same way. I’ve been a die-hard Wu fan since 93 but never considered Rae in my Top 25 but after the last 2 pieces he’s added to his catalog he’s in my Top 20 all-time now also. I already had Method Man and Ghostface in it easy.
4/5
top 5 dead or alive
Solid album 4.5/5
It was obviously going to be worse than OB4CL2, it’s hard to top that, but after listening to it I must say it’s a good solid album. I’d give it a 4/5.
NIGGA THIS SHIT BETTER THEN SLAUGHTERHOUSE.. PEACE YOU BITCH ASS NIGGAS!!
Yo, dope album! Another Wu Banger, flows, beats, rhymes. Black Thoughts verse on Masters of our Fate takes the cake. Voting 5 but probably more like 4-4.5. If Ross and Jones was an attempt to get more mainstream appeal, I understand the effort for someone who’s trying to keep it real, but trying to sell records with name recognition. it’s not like he made a club jam. That attempt won’t work anyways, the youngstaz don’t give a fuck about Wu, all they care about is Wockaflockaveli. Hip Hop is still alive, but for the generation that can keep the flame burning, it’s dead. As the years go by there is less and less support of the real. The “text message” generation is so dumbed down, they don’t even have a clue.
i expected a total blowout with this record. im not too crazy about this. I cant wait for cuban linx 3 . def a handful of tracks i can rock with . Towards the middle of the album rae and the beats get boring. average LP
yo im 18 and I love this shit WU TANG FOREVER
FIRE!!!!!!
Yo, this album is hot. Personally I got more replay out of it than OB4CL2 but I’m not comparing it because it’s a whole different vibe. OB4CL2 has longer songs, more skits, kind of grasps you into the album and was more planned out. It had to be it’s part 2 to arguably the best album of the Wu and the top 5 all time. This was more like “Bring dope azz beats and I’ll bring the rhymes”. ALL the wu members bring it.. Personally my favorite is molasses and not for Ross although, for him, he did well. But Rae and Ghost friggin killed it. What the hell is hip hop going to do when these guys retire man. Anyway, the tracks are shorter, well done and this is a straight up banger. I wish I can mesh some tracks from OB4CL2 and Shaolin vs Wu-Tang and we would prob have a top 3 Wu album.
OB4CL had no skits on it. Just an intro. Are you retarded?
*OB4CL 2
hhdx shit review this is a 5 WU TANG CLAN FOREVER! straight from Glasgow
I bought this album to support hip hop I’m not a big fan of Raekwon
Incredible
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