Rick Ross Recalls Taking Part In His First Cypher With Kanye West

posted Friday March 07 ,2014 at 04:15PM CST | 28 comments

Rick Ross Recalls Taking Part In His First Cypher With Kanye West

Prior to signing Meek Mill, Rick Ross says the rapper's music was brought to his attention thanks to Twitter.

Among the artists featured on Rick Ross’ newly-released Mastermind album is Chicago rapper Kanye West who lends his assistance on the Big Sean-assisted “Sanctified.” While discussing the record during his CRWN interview with Elliott Wilson, Ross spoke in detail on his relationship with Kanye.

The Miami emcee says he first met Kanye when the G.O.O.D. Music musician was at the start of his producing career. According to Ross, he was ghostwriting for an artist Kanye was working with during their first encounter together.

Their interaction in the studio together even resulted in what Ross says was his first cypher.

“Me and Kanye met at a very early stage of him producing. I was just writing for different artists,” he said. “And I actually was ghostwriting for an artist and he was producing for the artist when we first met. This may have been in ’03. And his beats was probably 2,500 then…The whole time me and Kanye sitting there we don’t really know each other. We don’t really know each other’s backgrounds or no shit like that…We just start talking about different things. And we had our first cypher. And we both traded verses back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Him just playing beats. And this went on for however long we was working with this particular artist. And it just kinda spilled over.”

Another artist Ross spoke on during his CRWN interview was Maybach Music Group lyricist Meek Mill. Ross recalled being introduced to Meek’s music thanks to Twitter and meeting the rapper while at a radio station in Philadelphia.

“I was just pulling into Philly and I just asked on Twitter who the hot artist in Philly is,” Ross said. “Felt like all 20-fuckin-thousand followers said ‘Meek Mill, Meek Mill.’ So, I said ‘Okay cool.’ I said ‘Y’all tell him I’m headed to the radio station. Come up there and see me.’ You know? So, by the time I got to the radio station…Meek walked through the doors. The homie had those matted up braids at the time. Looked like my dog ain’t have his shit done in five months. But you know I had come to find out he was just released from prison or jail or whatever you have it. He was just released and he just wanted to come up there and just take his shots and ask me about a record.”

In addition to Meek Mill, other artists signed to the Rick Ross-led Maybach Music Group include Stalley, Gunplay, Wale, and Omarion. As the founder of MMG, Ross says the ability to work with a variety of artists was one of the reasons why he started the label.

“I wanted to be in a position where I could be in a room full of artists,” he said. “And just bounce from artist to artist. And we all doing different things. We all making different types of music. I can walk over to Stalley and get a certain vibe or energy. I can go to Meek. I can go to Gunplay. You know what I mean? And that was just the energy that I wanted to create with Double M G…I believe it fall back on having that personal relationship. You know? And I think that’s always gon’ be a pro. When the CEO or who’s running the label or who’s in charge is an artist as well.”

On top of speaking on his relationship with Kanye West and the artists at Maybach Music Group, Ross also spoke on ‘90s Hip Hop, his relationship with Jeezy, and more during his CRWN interview.

CRWN x Rick Ross, Ep. 2: Kanye, Controversy and Legacy from CRWN on Myspace.

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  • Anonymous
    So did he meet meek before or t.I. had him and if so y u sign him first...
    • Anonymous
      tip could probably tell meek was gonna start acting funny once he got a lil money and fall off lyrically and let him go.
  • Anonymous
    I remember picking watermelons.
  • Anonymous
    cb4 bawse officer ricki big co
  • lol
    meek mill is exactly why you dont give a bum money. he begins to think hes better than everyone else..in 5 years meek will bb to matted dirty braids.
  • Anonymous
    Haha, the hate-nerd uses a stopwatch to see how long a rappers 16 bars last, he times them.
    • Anonymous
      a stop watch? LMAO how old are you man? have you ever watched a youtube video? notice theres a bar on the bottom that tells you the time?
  • Anonymous
    "Ross is lucky to have friends like Kanye and Big Sean who will perform a song off Ross album on live TV" Big Sean is lucky to be friends with Ross who lends a hand to Sean's sagging career.
    • Wimpy
      It was originally a Kanye and Big Sean song but Kanye wanted to give it to Ross because it was so Soulful, one of those Devil in A New Dress type songs.
    • Anonymous
      It don't even sound like a Ross track. He gets 1 minute and 1 verse out of a 5 and half minute song on his own album.
    • Anonymous
      I bet the hateNerd pulled out his stopwatch and counted how many bars Ross did on "Monster", LOL. Their approach to music is so weird and nerdy, I'm surprised they even listen to rap instead of classical.
  • Anonymous
    Rick Ross Recalls Taking Part In His First Prison Gang Bang
  • realtalk
    I stopped reading this article in the beginning, about right after they referred to Meek Mill as a 'lyricist'
    • Anonymous
      Ok up lyricist in the dictionary dumbfuck.
  • korhoden
    "I never needed acceptance from all you outsiders, had cyphers with Yeezy before his mouth wired."
    • Anonymous
      Kanye and Ross rocked Arsenio Hall last night, haters have been hurting inside all month.
    • Anonymous
      yeah that was funny. Ross didn't even come out until 3 minutes into his own song and just spit a quick 1 min verse. That is Kanye's record ft. Big Sean and Rick Ross.
    • Anonymous
      Ross is lucky to have friends like Kanye and Big Sean who will perform a song off Ross album on live TV to help promote his album. Some people are hurt about that.
    • Anonymous
      Ross probably didnt wanna put Sean on the album but Kanye made him.
  • Anonymous
    I believe [rapper Rick Ross] is being financed by the police union, and keeps spreading bullsh*t to the youngsters so they can keep filling up the penitentiaries, because he ain't selling no music but they keep putting him on the radio, and putting out all these big expensive videos but he ain't selling no music, so somebody is shootin' off money. I believe its the police union behind it."
  • A Trillionaire
    What's with the sudden influx of innocuous Rick Ross stories from out of nowhere right around his album release date? PAYOLA!!!
    • Anonymous
      think it has more to do with him doing a promo run for the album and an influx of interviews even though he says the same ol shit in every one
    • Anonymous
      Yeah crack open your album budget and use payola to put articles on a wack ass website with low traffic that your base doesent even frequent.
    • @2nd anon
      ^This website gets a ton of traffic for a mainstream hip-hop based audience. Nothing you said made any fucking sense. You are a complete fucking moron. I actually wish I were you so I could kill myself and there would be one less complete fucking moron on the planet.
  • Anonymous
    Ross recently went head to head with Kendrick at a charity event and destroyed him. Afterwards, Kendrick said Ross's wordplay is wickedly fierce.
    • Anonymous
      Even Ross will tell you your comment is nothing but bullshit.
  • i poss on SMH
    who cares SMH he fucking sucks and you suck dick.
  • SMH
    Does Rick Ross Really Have $92 Million In His Checking Account? Random Celebrity Article By Brian Warner on March 5, 2014 http://www.celebritynetworth.c... ver the last few days we've received a few angry emails and comments from Celebrity Net Worth visitors who believe our estimate for Rick Ross' net worth is way too low. We currently have Mr. Ross at $28 million. Not exactly a pittance, but according to the angry emails, this number should be raised to $92 million. More precisely, they think the number should be raised to $92,153,183.28. Where are people getting this number? None other than Ricky Rozay himself! Here's what's going on On March 3, 2014, Rick Ross released his sixth studio album "Mastermind". The third track of the album is called "Drug Dealers Dream". Not to be picky, but the word "Dealers" in that song title should technically be "Dealer's". That's a possessive noun. This track starts out with an audio recording of one of those automated voices reading a bank checking account balance. The automated voice dryly states: "Please hold while I locate your information. Your checking account balance is $92,153,183.28. This reflects the most current information available on your account." You can hear the track and the song opening on this Spotify embed: (For this to work you need to have a spotify account, and the app will open if it isn't already) Clearly the implication here is that Rick Ross called up his bank, selected the option to check his account balance and then recorded the results. All $92 million worth of results. But is this possible? Could Rick Ross really have this much money sitting in checking? Is he following the Floyd Mayweather savings and investment plan? (A few months back, Floyd Mayweather showed a reporter his ATM receipt that had a checking account balance of $125 million.) Or is this just a run-of-the-mill rapper exaggeration? First off, if somehow this brag is true, keeping $92 million in a checking account would be a colossally stupid way to allocate money. Checking accounts might AT MOST earn around 0.50% interest nowadays. The national average is probably closer to 0.10%. Splitting the difference, Rick would be earning just $184,000 in interest per year off his massive wealth. That's not nothing, but as any basic financial planner would explain, taking the money out of checking and putting it into mutual funds, ETFs, maybe a few stocks, should conservatively be able to yield a 5% rate. That would bring Mr. Ross $4.6 million a year from interest alone. If he got lucky with the right hedge fund, Rick might be looking at $10-$15 million. The second big problem with keeping that much money in checking is the fact that only $500,000 is insured by the FDIC. If Rick's bank goes under, which as well know isn't exactly impossible nowadays, Rick's money would evaporate overnight without any recourse. Ok so we've established that keeping $92 million in checking is clearly a bad idea. The more important question is whether or not Rick Ross actually has $92 million in the first place. Our current estimation of Rick's net worth is $28 million. That number might go up in a few weeks when we release our annual list of the richest rappers on the planet, but we're talking about a bump of maybe $5-6 million. Definitely not $62 million. Don't trust us? Well according to Forbes, which we think is a little too conservative with their estimates, Rick earned $6 million in 2012 and $9 million in 2013. That's a grand total of $15 million during what were arguably Rick's peak earning years to date. Let's also keep in mind that in order to have a checking account balance of $92 million, Rick would conceivably needed to earn a little less than twice that amount before taxes. And that's before he spent a dime on cars, jewelry, houses, private jets, vacations and biggest expense of them all for Rick: Food. Even if Rick was the most penny-pinching saver in the world, we're still talking about $200-$250 million in earnings over the last 3-4 years, in order to be left with such a gargantuan bank account. Unfortunately, this isn't reality. Even for Mr. Maybach Music himself. In conclusion, it's pretty safe to say that this is simply one rapper making an extremely over-exaggerated brag.