MC Serch Says Jay Z's "Takeover" Claim About Nas' Publishing Was Misguided

posted Monday January 20 ,2014 at 12:05PM CST | 96 comments

MC Serch Says Jay Z's

MC Serch reveals that the death of MF Doom's brother, Subroc, may have led to the creation of MF Doom.

MC Serch served as the latest artist to appear on Cipha Sounds and Peter Rosenberg’s Juan Epstein podcast, and during his interview the former 3rd Bass member spoke in-depth on his relationship with Queensbridge rapper Nas.

While speaking on his relationship with the Queens lyricist, MC Serch brought up Jay Z’s “Takeover,” a song in which the Brooklyn rapper mentions Serch’s company, Serchlite. On “Takeover,” Jay Z takes aim at Nas as he raps, “And you ain't get a coin, nigga, you was getting fucked then/I know who I paid, God - Serchlite publishing.”

Prior to the release of “Takeover,” Serch helped Jay Z clear a sample from Nas’ “The World Is Yours” for use on his Reasonable Doubt record, “Dead Presidents.” Serch later clarified that Serchlite did not own Nas’ publishing and only became a publishing company just last year.

“The reason that Jay thought I owned Nas’ publishing was I was working at Def Jam at the time and he was about to put out 'Dead Presidents' and he needed the sample cleared,” MC Serch said. “So, I said ‘I’ll hook you up. I’ll give you a fair deal. I’m not gonna jerk you’…So, I cleared the sample for like $2,000…He paid Zomba, but he thought I was involved. So, he thought my company was called Serchlite Publishing, which it wasn’t. It only became Serchlite Publishing last year…You know how much love I get from that line though?”

Prior to speaking on Nas’ publishing and Jay Z’s “Takeover” mention, MC Serch recalled meeting Nas in the studio and assisting the rapper with securing a fair label deal as his manager. Serch ended one potential deal for the rapper, a deal he says was “bullshit,” before approaching Russell Simmons and later Columbia Records.

“So, Nas comes back the next day and he tells me ‘Yo, I need your help. I got this deal. I don’t feel good about it,’” Serch said. “He just wanted my help…He wasn’t signed to anybody. Stretch and Reef had made him an offer. The offer was $150,000 and 50 percent of his publishing. No advance on the publishing. Nas felt some type of way about it. And he asked me to help and I said ‘I can’t help you unless you’re signed to Serchlite. I’m not gonna go negotiate with friends.’ He’s like ‘Alright, I’ll sign.’

“So, Nas signed with Serchlite and I gave him a very fair deal,” he added. “My whole thing was I didn’t want to be the Jew who jerked black men. Like I wasn’t gonna be that guy. So, I go to Stretch and Reef and I said ‘Listen, I can’t let him sign this deal. You know this deal is bullshit. He’s like ‘Listen, this is what [Commons] is offering. Come on Serch, don’t get in the way.’ I’m like—I said ‘I can’t. That’s like—it’s a shady deal. It’s like a 1988 deal. Nas is gonna be the greatest emcee of our generation.’ Helen Keller could see he was gonna be the genius that he was.”

In addition to Nas and Jay Z, MC Serch also spoke briefly on MF Doom and the passing of Doom’s brother, Subroc. Serch shared his belief that Subroc’s death is what led to the creation of MF Doom.

“I haven’t seen Doom in a long time. So, I can’t really speculate. But for me, outside looking in, that’s when he became MF Doom,” Serch said.

Serch’s interview comes days after the emcee launched a new talk show titled “Serch.” The show is currently only available in select markets including New York, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia.

Audio from MC Serch’s interview on Juan Epstein can be found below (via 2DopeBoyz).

RELATED: MC Serch Says He Refuses "To Have Fighting" On His New Talk Show

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  • Fools only
    You fake weak niggas can't stand Hov... U think getting hard is killing ur selves n putting ur friends to rest all in the name of some homothugs shit, it's so unfortunate how d society have made u all dim ur lights n y'all want to compare ur low lives virtual image nas n no point mouth open saying nothing fans of other lame rappers there with a trillion watts light of Hov. I will ever listen to u fools until u lame prove it to ur selves. Stay in d dark as that black no vision people most blacks have always been.
  • Zev Love X
    Jay-Z gets da GAS FACE!!!
  • killa
    these posts are some funny shit..after all these years, people still fighting and crying over whos better.. why cant they both be great rappers? there aint 2 MC's out there that have been this good for this long, so just let em be great.. stop fukin hating!
    • Anonymous
      ^ this!..
    • Anonymous
      no one is crying man. it's just debating. get over yourself.
  • MuhFuckin DOOM
    "the death of MF Doom's brother, Subroc, may have led to the creation of MF Doom" ...I thought that was already somewhat common knowledge.
    • Anonymous
      My thoughts exactly. This site is so watered down when it comes to newsworthy stories.
    • Anonymous
      +1 lmao smh
    • Anonymous
      "the death of Bruce Wayne's parents may have led to the creation of Batman"
  • aceview
    Soooo...just wondering if anybody pointed out how Jay knew what to call the company when he shouted it out in the song...way back then... ...if it just became a company officially last year.... this some "look at me, because MC Serch" shit here
    • R.Pgh
      He could have created the name of the publishing company a while back, but never officially opened up the doors.
  • w h o k n o w s
    Nas bodied Jay-Z and his catalogue makes Jay-Z shit laughable!!! Call me a hater u hoe ass niccaz but facts are facts As far as businessmen Jay-Z is up there but we're not rating bank accts here & Nas is still a millionaire... so cut the bullshit Ether is a now a hip hop term for killin' niccaz on the mic... not takeover Nas signed a deal with DEF JAM, not Jay-Z (who wasn't even CEO very long after Nas signed) Nas is the exec prod. on ALL his Def Jam project so he winning on that Jay-Z dickriders will mention money in every argument & claim that as victory but bar for bar we know who holds the crown in NY "You can't sign an artist like Nas, but you can partner with him" - Jay-Z, circa 2006 (it's ya boy!)
    • Anonymous
      too many facts for one post son. cosign
    • Fool u are
      nas said you niggas should thank Hov for hiphop n slim said he wants to be next to Hov in heaven..what can u said about that.
  • ROB
    BROTHER ALI ISNT A WHITE GUY SORRY TO TELL YOU. HE'S ALBINO. DO YOU LISTEN OR JUST STARE AT THE ALBUM COVERS?
    • R.Pgh
      Yes, he is an albino, but both of his parents are Caucasian, so....he's a white guy.
    • R.Pgh
      taken directly from his wiki biography: "While Brother Ali's family is white, he has often described a childhood marked by cruelty and exclusion by his white classmates as a result of his physical abnormality. He has often explained that, from an early age, he felt "most at home amongst African Americans."
  • Anonymous
    As long as there are hip hop fans who think the pubescent rant called ether was better than Takeover, I wont take any opinions from the group seriously. There is no truth whatsoever in ether. Its a work of fiction. Takeover on the other hand is almost flawless in its truth. Jay Z is weaker than Nas lyrically now, but he was on top back then!
    • Anonymous
      so you only talk to people who agree with you? nice to see your open-minded.
    • HipHop101
      Jay-Z stan alert! Let's set the record straight on this rubbish Jay fans spout: Takeover is extremely overrated lyrically by some who claim that it is at another level to Ether. If you would have a close look at it, you will find this to be incorrect. The first verse is purely brag rap about how tough he is. The second verse takes shots at mobb deep. including that he has more money, sold more albums and that he will put them in a hole..... As I've said before when you make pop rap it isn't hard to sell more than an artist/duo like Mobb Deep who make that grimy / unradio friendly music. The third verse he gets to Nas. Nas did some modelling of clothing.. i guess it's a fact.. Jay is having a go at someone who makes money in other ways than through their album sales? hypocrisy at its highest. Calls him a fag. That is fact and isn't pubescent? Okay. lol. Calls him out for using Esco as a name. Yes Iceburg, Jigga, etc. Says he had a spark but is now trash. Hold up. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Is this the guy who had just released the average at best dynasty and vol 3? Check out rating sites around tha net and I Am is held up higher than them. I guess it must be a different Jay-z. I don't know if Nas has a worse flow than his bodyguard, but Oochie Wally is a trash song for sure, but again pot-keetle. I guess the 'you were murdered on your own shit' which is an accepted fact wipes this one out. Then he calls him a fake thug. There was the firm concept album but Nas has never been that heavy on the thug persona. And people from Jays past have said he has inflated what he did in the drug world considerably. He then says he showed him his first tech. Who knows if this is a fact? Were you there with them? and is this even important? Then it's 'You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song.' The worst line in hip hop history. The world is yours is cited as one of the best from the genre. Then the publishing shit comes up which got put to bed as being erroneous by this article. He calls IWW 'nah' - IWW is seen as a near classic. So this is a fact as well? Nah probably just jays opinion. Then, his flow did change over the years on different songs so not a fact either. Then the 4th verse is back to brag rap and 'warnings.' So there it is. About 40 bars that went at Nas, very few are facts, less are proven, and if they are facts most are hypocritical and the same could be said about Shawn. So let's not act like Takeover also doesn't feature childish lines, isn't mostly macho 'scary' brag rap and is at another level lyrically than ether.
    • Ether
      No facts in Ether? So Jay-Z didn't play in Hawaiian Sophie video? So KRS-One didn't already have an album named Blueprint? So Jay didn't say he was better than B.I.G? So Jay didn't bite 100 Biggie lines (@Cam'ron Swagger Jacker)? Didn't get murdered by Eminem on his own shit? Isn't ugly? LOL
  • DA BIG HOMIE FROM LA
    Jay won the battle... Nas had the upper hand by responding. He had a chance to listen to Jay's "Takeover" and sit and contemplate about how to go about making a record. Then when Jay challenged him to a real battle, he declined and wouldn't respond anymore. How Jay really killed Nas is by making everything he said come true tho. "R-O-C WE RUNNIN' THIS RAP SHIT"... How many years later and Jay is still runnin this rap shit. Nas couldn't sell 100,000 copies right now. Look at Jay's influence in the game (Kanye, Jeezy, Ross, Rhianna, Cole) all coming from under Jay's wing. What happened to Nas' career? Jay told him "All that thug rappin and gimmicks, I will end it"... That became reality. Ether was just filled with a lot of funny ass lines making fun of Jay but Jay in real life destroyed Nas' career...
    • @Da Big Fool from LA
      Destroyed his career? That's why he has had platinum/gold and well renowned albums since and is still wanted for verses from everyone in the game over 10 years later? On the battle. Nas ain't a freestyler or battle rapper from what I know. So why would he ever want to do that? Also Jeezy was massive on the streets before Jay, all he did was put him on a label when Jeezy had other offers. And he did shit for Cole as well. Couldn't even get him for the song he wanted on his debut, only as a last minute feature.
    • @Da Big Fool from LA
      and while nas had the upper hand by responding, Takeover was a response as Nas had already released the Stillmatic freestyle prior to Ether...
    • R.Pgh
      "Nas couldn't sell 100,000 copies right now" except has last album went gold (500k copies) with very little radio play. Seems like his career is doing just fine.
    • Ether
      Nas can carry a good album on his own and go gold in 2012 with 0 radio singles. Jay-Z need people Justin Timberlake, Rihanna and Alicia Keys on all his singles to go platinum.
    • Anonymous
      "Nas couldn't sell 100,000 copies right now. " you know life is good sold more than that in the first week, right?..
  • JAYZISTHEKING
    fuck all u JAY Z haters...
    • Anonymous
      most hit or miss discog in the game.
  • Anonymous
    your ears will thank you later: http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=xXjeoeEkbeA
  • whispaaah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQvCKcJIx0
  • Anonymous
    2014 next big thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQvCKcJIx0
  • Anonymous
    Another L for Jay