Wale Explains Complex Rant, Blames Bias On Kid Cudi Beef

posted Monday December 16 ,2013 at 07:36PM CST | 260 comments

Wale Explains Complex Rant, Blames Bias On Kid Cudi Beef

In at interview with Hot 97, Wale apologizes to Juicy J and shares Jay Z's reaction to his Complex tirade.

On Friday (December 13), Complex released an audio recording of Wale threatening its staff over exclusion from the publication’s list of the top 50 albums of 2013. In an interview with Hot 97’s Ebro and Peter Rosenberg, the Maybach Music Group-rapper explained that he believes the omission stemmed from a beef he had with Kid Cudi in 2010.

“I’m a bit of conspiracy theorist a little bit,” Wale said. “So, I believe that me and [Kid Cudi’s] fallout had something to do with a lack of support [from Complex].

“Me and Cudi was real cool,” he continued. “I used to live in SoHo and Cudi used to live right up there. We used to do a whole lot of stuff together. We performed when we were nobodies for the Michael Jordan Classic game, and I remember he was like, ‘Yo, I don’t wear Jordans. All I wear is Bapes,’ and we just bonded from that moment on.”

Friction between Wale and Kid Cudi became public after Wale mentioned Kid Cudi in his “Thank You Freestyle.” In an interview with Complex soon after, Cudi refered to Wale as “a simple-ass rapper.” Though the two eventually reconciled, Wale stated that the short lived beef was instigated by Complex and remains the primary reason why his album The Gifted was not included in the publication's year end list.

“It’s another thing about being responsible,” Wale added before providing additional context around the conflict:

“You guys are claiming to be this man’s boy. I know he’s in a certain space right now and it’s almost like they were perpetuating some type of war. At this time, I’m just losing my first record deal, so I’m in an even worse place. I just remember [Complex saying], ‘Oh we don’t rock with you musically,’ and it went viral. And I remember being like, ‘Damn, you’re getting my friend to kick me when I’m down. Y’all are perpetuating it. Y’all are instigating it.’ It hurt on so many levels, mainly because it was someone that I considered a close friend. I just feel like that magazine, which he has five or six covers from, is perpetuating this and making it a thing—more than what it could be. Moving forward, they just kind of had this elitist, like, ‘We don’t like you,’ thing.”

Wale also stated that he’s received phone calls from people throughout the industry who told him that Complex has personal issues with him. He also said that Jay Z called him immediately after his tirade was released and explained that his ego validated Complex’s list.

“That’s the first thing Jay told me,” he said. “You just let your ego do it and now you just made that list important. Everybody brought it to me that day. Jay, Ty-Ty and Q-Tip called me. It’s like when you do something bad in school and you come home from suspension and everybody’s like, ‘Yo, what was you thinking?’”

When Peter Rosenberg offered that Wale should be excited that he was listed in Kendrick Lamar’s “Control” verse, Wale simply replied, “I don’t think everybody on that list is dope.”

Wale also speaks at length about the emotions felt by being excluded from the list. He apologizes to Juicy J and reinforces his commitment to his fans, as well. Watch the full interview below. 

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  • Kitty
    I think it's great that he has passion for what he does. Not many people can wake up in the morning and say they love what they do. I honestly believe he IS one of the best rappers out today who has a true sense of the art of hip hop and who does it for the art. But... Talib is also one of the best and gets very little commercial recognition. Conscious rappers today get very little love on the commercial level. Wale, keep making great music with great beats and your time will come. You still have a strong fan base! Who cares about people saying your sensitive...everybody is sensitive about something, even if they don't want to openly admit it. That's what makes us human. I love your music and love your passion more.
  • hhojojlmlm
    Yoooo A.D & Ambition >>>>>>>>>>
  • Anonymous
    Whale needs to see a psychiatrist and discuss his feelings
  • Anonymous
    Whale the type of dude who girls call up to tell all their man problems and shit. He probably been friend zoned so many times thats why he so mad all the time!
  • waley dough?
    wale fans need to write poems addressing their feelings on this article
  • Anonymous
    Wale stans are more emotional than Wale himself.
    • Anonymous
      wouldnt expect anything less. kind of like those ross cheerleaders who pretend to know anything about the street life
  • Anonymous
    All this outrage is phony, where was this outrage when Maino threatened Trinidad?
    • Anonymous
      Two different situations.
  • Anonymous
    The issues with Complex and Wale go back years to his spat with Cudi and the magazines complicity in instigating the spat. Ebro said the realist shit I have ever heard in my life at the end of the vid.
    • Anonymous
      thats the realest shit you ever heard? LOL i feel bad for you son. get off the computer
    • Anonymous
      Not to be a grammar Nazi but "Realist" is not the correct word for that context and sentiment. I agree that what Ebro said was harsh truth but it will get lost in translation. Wale has to understand that the intense hatred that he gets from this tiny group of E-people does not represent a large group of people. Yes they seem like a legion of hate mongrels but its more like a dedicated few, but fiercely dedicated.
    • Anonymous
      BruthaDee all over Ebro's nuts.
    • Anonymous
      middle aged racist out of touch niggas gotta stick together
  • Anonymous
    Wale gets emotional over his music but posters online get emotional over Wale getting emotional.
    • Anonymous
      The only people here getting emotional are the Wale stans.
    • Anonymous
      If you are not a Wale Stan then why are you on a Wale article typing his name? Dont you have an attractive woman to text message instead of discussing Wale with Stans?
    • Anonymous
      Who says we cant do both? It's called multi-tasking you faggot
    • Anonymous
      I'm the faggot when you admit to talking to a girl while discussing Wale at the same time?
    • Anonymous
      BruthaDee, get a life.
  • Anonymous
    Wale puts a lot of period blood, sweat and tears into her music so show her the respect she deserves!
    • Anonymous
      At least you admit you listen to his music.
    • Anonymous
      Hi, stanley.
    • Anonymous
      you mean her music
  • Anonymous
    Seems like Complex has it out for MMG! They penned an article about how MMG has peaked and isn't as hot anymore and Self Made 3 was also ignored from the top 50 albums list!
    • Anonymous
      Complex loves Rick Ross and MMG, they post something MMg related every week, nice try though.
    • Anonymous
      Saying that MMG isnt as hot as they were is likee saying YMCMB, & Good Music are not as hot as they were, Wale still got a platinum plack and Rozay got a nom for a Grammy. Wale will get the awards he craves but not from the other side.
    • Anonymous
      whats a plack?
    • Anonymous
      Bro you know what a plaq is dont be a nitwit. Wale gets hate for no reason but Keef gets love for threatening to slap Lupe Fiasco, you hipocrites are more plastic than nicky minaj boobs.
    • Anonymous
      No one praised Keef for threatening Lupe. You gotta love how Wale stans make up shit to justify their idol's sensitive behavior.
    • Anonymous
      "Wale gets hate for no reason" No reason besides acting like a over sensitive woman and getting pissed off at people who don't think he's as great as he think he is.
  • Anonymous
    I think Wale has a little mans complex! Pun intended ofcourse.
    • Anonymous
      Just cause he's small doesn't mean he can't stab or shoot you.
    • Anonymous
      He won't, though. He's a bitch nigga.