Jeff Bass Explains Estranged Eminem Relationship

posted Thursday November 07 ,2013 at 04:35PM CST | 75 comments

Jeff Bass Explains Estranged Eminem Relationship

Eminem's former songwriting partner and producer Jeff Bass talks about working with Eminem and why they are estranged.

Jeff Bass, a former producer and songwriting partner with Eminem, recently spoke about how their relationship has changed since their last collaboration on 2009's Relapse

"I still love him and everything and I'm sure he still loves me," said Bass, who with his brother Mark is collectively known as The Bass Brothers, the production and songwriting duo who worked extensively with Eminem on his first few releases, during an interview with grantland.com. "But we don't communicate like we used to. He told me he had to experiment with other writers, other producers. It was very fair. All artists probably do that. We could only have our vision of what he should be. Life happened. Life just moves on. It's not like he said, 'Jump! You’re fired.' It was just, 'I'm gonna go in a different direction.' 'Cool, I wish you the best of luck.' I can guarantee that we could sit down today and write a song, and we could still put something out that the fans would love. And maybe someday that'll happen."

During the interview, Bass also spoke about what he saw in Eminem's music when they first met, prior to Em's fame.

"When Marshall came into the picture, I wasn't quite sure about his ability because I couldn't understand what he was saying," Bass said. "He was triple-timing, spitting rhymes. I was just trying to comprehend him. Then I started writing tracks for him. And it became apparent that he was amazing." 

Bass also said he and his brother coached Eminem through compositions.

"In between Infinite [Eminem's independently released first album] and The Slim Shady EP, we figured out how to communicate with him," Bass said. "Because he doesn’t come from a musical background. We had to figure out a way emotionally to get through to him. So how I approached it is, any song that had a happy feel we’d call a happy tune. Angry, sad, violent — we’d use adjectives to get through to him. So that he could write the type of lyrics that’d go with the track." 

Jeff Bass Details Dr. Dre's Discovery Of Eminem

During the interview, Bass also speaks about Eminem's journey to being signed.

"He was doing the Rap Olympics, and he was winning all over the place," Bass said. "And then he lost in L.A., but when we were there we had a bunch of The Slim Shady EPs. At that particular show, there was somebody in the audience watching. A young kid, 17 years old, and he saw all the passion that Marshall was putting into his show and his lyrics. And he came up to us after, 'Can I get a CD?' Little did we know, he worked in the mail room at Interscope Records. And he loved Eminem. And what he did for us, on his own, is slip the CD in Jimmy Iovine’s listening bag that he used to take home every Friday. And Jimmy actually listened to it, and said 'Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is this?' And he called Dre, and then Dre came and listened to it. It’s not like Dre found it on the floor in his garage. The true story was that he was called by Jimmy. And then it all snowballed from there." 

Bass also talked about Eminem's emotions during this period.

"He was really excited, first of all, that Dr. Dre was gonna be involved," Bass said. "[Dre] was a big star in '98. He was freaked out. 'Oh my god, I can’t believe it!' Me and my brother were excited. 'Dr. Dre wants to talk to us!' And Marshall went out to L.A. with my brother first. They got there a week before me. And it started immediately. Meeting Dre, talking with Jimmy, meeting all these people, this whole crazy period. I think it was February of ‘98." 

Jeff Bass Discusses Eminem's Marriage With Former Wife Kim

During the interview, Jeff Bass also spoke about Eminem's marriage with his former wife Kim and the long-standing friendship he built with the rapper. 

"He’s been with me since ‘95," Bass said of Eminem. "When he was a young buck. I was with him when Hailie was just born. I knew Kim. She used to come into the studio with us all the time. We used to take Marshall out to the different clubs in Detroit. She would come with us, be her crazy self." 

Bass was also asked if the couple was dysfunctional. 

"It was always obvious," Bass said. "He basically lived with us in the studio on 8 Mile road. And you got to know the person. We had to deal with his mother. We had to deal with Kim. We had to deal with uncles and friends trying to be hangers-on. You really get to know a person. And it was amazing. As he would come up with the stories [on the songs], those of us who were close to him working on the project, we knew there was so much truth in what he was saying. That’s pure emotion. That’s realism. And he told it like he was speaking to every kid out there that was going through the same thing. He was their voice. It was quite incredible."

In addition to his songwriting and production credits on various Eminem albums, Bass also appeared on various Eminem skits, including "Soap," "Lounge," and throughout "Bad Meets Evil," off The Slim Shady LP

RELATED: Eminem "The Marshall Mathers LP 2" Release Date, Cover Art, Tracklisting & Album Stream

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  • Anonymous
    GAYYY
  • Anonymous
    Jeff Bass sided with Ja Rule, so Em said see ya.
  • livemon
    Didn't these guys file a lawsuit against Interscope? There's more to the story as to why they don't work together anymore. It's too bad because Eminem's best music came from when he worked with the Bass Brothers (SSLP, MMLP, TES). The beats he chooses now sound amateurish and his albums lack consistency. No one he's worked with since the Bass Brothers have helped his sound.
    • John Shux
      AGREE !!
  • Anonymous
    That's why Recovery and MMLP2 sounded like shit. Well, it was more pop oriented than anything he's put out throughout his whole career. I honestly hated the new release and I used to love Em's work prior to relapse. The bass brothers made him who he was along with Dre. We all know Dre likes to take credit in everything he does. What slightly bothers me is that he went to other high profile producers to make a shitty album where you're screaming in most of it. Get back with your camp, do a little drugs, and make an album that worth listening to. Rick Ruban damn near did a Yeezus on your shit. How did you let that happened?
    • Techneeque
      MMLP2 Is the best thing that happened to today's hip hop,he is being totally real with tracks like Legacy and Stronger than I am.
  • Ruby Rice
    up to I looked at the paycheck saying $8258, I didn't believe that my best friend had been really bringing in money in their spare time from there labtop.. there moms best frend haz done this for only 8 months and just paid for the depts on there villa and got a gorgeous BMW 5-series. useful reference www.Fb39.Com Totally agree with Reece... He always bitches about how much he hates rap and the industry.. Yet still drops shit, then bitches about it some more. Your young motherfucker, go get a degree or some shit, goddamn.
  • Anonymous
    I BEEN KNEW THIS
  • Freda Carter
    just before I looked at the receipt of $7368, I have faith that my sister had been realey bringing home money parttime from there new laptop.. there uncles cousin has done this 4 only 19 months and by now paid for the debts on their villa and purchased themselves a Nissan GT-R:. Related Site www.Fb39.Com Was this a fucking joke? haha These tools couldn't rhyme their way out of a fucking paper bag... and mentioning Hailie that's just stupid...
  • Anonymous
    Fuck Rick Rubin, Fuck Dre & fuck all those other bubble gum producers Slim is constantly using nowadays. Get back together with The Bass Brothers and make more classics.
    • Anonymous
      Fuck Dre? oh you silly cunt.
    • COME-ON-SON
      Fuck Dre An Rick Runin? those 2 guys alone did more for hip hop then u ever will.. em has evolved past the days of his underground roots an to be in this biz u gotta sell records if not u will be replaced quick. pop music mean popular music.. would u rather him underground not selling anything? if not for him being popular would u even know who Eminem was?.. think before talking or at least do the research
    • Aim80
      I'm so glad other people realize that, that "pop music" means "POPULAR music"... just like POPULAR culture, POPULAR art, etc... the word "pop" is just an abbreviation. Rap music became HIP pop... because in the late 70's early 80's "hip" was "cool" and rap music was "hipper" than the "pop" at the time... Eminem is SO evolved now, i cant even understand how people (or his "fans") can be so disappointed in his more recent shit. It's the TIGHTEST it's ever been! The writing and structure of his bars are just fuckin phenomenal right now... and his songs are so much more deep and complex than just a typical boom-bap beat, with 16 bars, chorus, 16 bars, chorus, 16 bars, end. I think this new album is a little ahead of its time and what people want or expect. Because when i first "Berzerk" i wasnt sure how i felt about it... initially it came off as "noisy" to me. But as you listen a few more times, you realize that the whole thing is flawless, everything's so on time and on point, it SOUNDS like mess, but it's really like orchestrated chaos. And he even says "Dumb it down, i dont know how... at least i know that i DONT know, question is: are you bozos SMART ENOUGH TO FEEL STUPID... hope so."
    • majisu
      nah nigga fuck u...Dre Day all day
  • Anonymous
    get back with the bass brothers, and bring out an album worthy of your respect & status forget rhyming fast, forget techno-poppy beats forget worthless features and have limited ones that work - rihanna? skylar grey? How about RBX and obie trice? Where's the 'Marshall Mathers' songs? Where's the 'Say Goodbye Hollywood's' ? Disappointing, but hey! We want his old shit, why don't we buy his old albums?
  • Anonymous
    he looks like Mike from breaking bad...
    • Anonymous
      STFU and let me die in peace..
    • Anonymous
      LOL i can kinda see that
    • Dude
      I thought it was Mike, I clicked the link on FB because I thought the same thing!
  • mario
    his best music was with these guys . unfortunately like so many artist they abandon chemistry for big names and big names not always better
    • Chuck Niddy
      co-sign 100%
    • Anonymous
      if you were makin music with the same producer for 10 years, and youre the biggest rapper of all time, I think you'd wanna experiment and see what else there is to offer. its no disrespect. Everyone does it.
    • Anonymous
      ^^to add to what the puppy nose white boy said above me... they changed too... not just eminem
    • Anonymous
      how can you tell ones skin color from an anonymous post
  • Kai
    Something about this guy's version of events doesn't quite tally with what I know. Eminem also worked with a producer/rapper from Detroit called Hush (he's still active today), and one of the tracks they worked on together appeared on the Slim Shady EP credited entirely to the Bass Brothers. Shady (pardon the pun) stuff like that may have played a part in Em's move away from them. That and the fact that he was working with the likes of Dr Dre, obviously.
    • sam snead
      yup, hush is founder of a non-profit called Detroit Dog Rescue and produced the song we shine off infinite. which eminem still wants him to pay to use 15 years later, they also screwed DJ butter like that, that's why eminem is not around detroit hip hop circles because he boinked some people on his way up. Bassmint productions has worked with Em for a long time though.
    • Anonymous
      dude got paid off that upfront money... he didnt want the publishing yo. stop gossiping
    • sam snead
      Well Thats what Hush told me so it's not gossip,yo
  • COCA
    "Thats pure emotion. Thats realism. And he told it like he was speaking to every kid out there that was going through the same thing. He was their voice. It was quite incredible." THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT EMINEM IS MISSING TODAY.
    • Anonymous
      I don't know about you, but I can certainly hear the emotion and realism in songs like Wicked Ways, Headlights, Desperation, Beautiful Pain, Legacy, Bad Guy. It just depends on the song.
  • Cealix
    I swear some of y'all are dumb. The Bass brothers wrote the notes, not the lyrics.
  • COCA
    THIS IS [HONESTLY] THE MOST INSIGHTFUL ARTICLE I'VE READ ON THIS WEBSITE IN A VERY LONG TIME.
    • shaolin
      true story bro
    • Anonymous
      really good interview
  • Hiphop fraud
    lol so the so called rapgod writes his songs togehter with the Bass Brothers. Another fraud in hiphop.
    • jake
      they wrote the musical notes to the songs....they didn't write his lyrics.
  • Anonymous
    Bass Brothers were songwriters. So basically they helped Eminem writings his lyrics?
    • Anonymous
      NO, JUST THE MELODIES....
  • Anonymous
    Eminem has made wack music since he stopped working with the bass brothers. Dre and the bass brothers made a classic with slim shady lp. Eminems best album.
    • vg
      Slim Shady LP his best album? You must be on drugs... it's no where near the Marshal Mathers LP or The Eminem Show
    • Anonymous
      i wouldn't say no where near, but those are better
    • Anonymous
      I would disagree i think Slim Shady LP is his best album but in all honesty MMLP,SSLP, and TES are almost interchangeable when it comes to his best album.
  • Anonymous
    Bass Brothers, probably one of the most underrated production teams of all time. Some idiots still think dre made all the beats on his first three albums
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Jeff Bass Explains Estranged Eminem Relationship

posted Thursday November 07 ,2013 at 04:35PM CST | 75 comments

Jeff Bass Explains Estranged Eminem Relationship

Eminem's former songwriting partner and producer Jeff Bass talks about working with Eminem and why they are estranged.

Jeff Bass, a former producer and songwriting partner with Eminem, recently spoke about how their relationship has changed since their last collaboration on 2009's Relapse

"I still love him and everything and I'm sure he still loves me," said Bass, who with his brother Mark is collectively known as The Bass Brothers, the production and songwriting duo who worked extensively with Eminem on his first few releases, during an interview with grantland.com. "But we don't communicate like we used to. He told me he had to experiment with other writers, other producers. It was very fair. All artists probably do that. We could only have our vision of what he should be. Life happened. Life just moves on. It's not like he said, 'Jump! You’re fired.' It was just, 'I'm gonna go in a different direction.' 'Cool, I wish you the best of luck.' I can guarantee that we could sit down today and write a song, and we could still put something out that the fans would love. And maybe someday that'll happen."

During the interview, Bass also spoke about what he saw in Eminem's music when they first met, prior to Em's fame.

"When Marshall came into the picture, I wasn't quite sure about his ability because I couldn't understand what he was saying," Bass said. "He was triple-timing, spitting rhymes. I was just trying to comprehend him. Then I started writing tracks for him. And it became apparent that he was amazing." 

Bass also said he and his brother coached Eminem through compositions.

"In between Infinite [Eminem's independently released first album] and The Slim Shady EP, we figured out how to communicate with him," Bass said. "Because he doesn’t come from a musical background. We had to figure out a way emotionally to get through to him. So how I approached it is, any song that had a happy feel we’d call a happy tune. Angry, sad, violent — we’d use adjectives to get through to him. So that he could write the type of lyrics that’d go with the track." 

Jeff Bass Details Dr. Dre's Discovery Of Eminem

During the interview, Bass also speaks about Eminem's journey to being signed.

"He was doing the Rap Olympics, and he was winning all over the place," Bass said. "And then he lost in L.A., but when we were there we had a bunch of The Slim Shady EPs. At that particular show, there was somebody in the audience watching. A young kid, 17 years old, and he saw all the passion that Marshall was putting into his show and his lyrics. And he came up to us after, 'Can I get a CD?' Little did we know, he worked in the mail room at Interscope Records. And he loved Eminem. And what he did for us, on his own, is slip the CD in Jimmy Iovine’s listening bag that he used to take home every Friday. And Jimmy actually listened to it, and said 'Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is this?' And he called Dre, and then Dre came and listened to it. It’s not like Dre found it on the floor in his garage. The true story was that he was called by Jimmy. And then it all snowballed from there." 

Bass also talked about Eminem's emotions during this period.

"He was really excited, first of all, that Dr. Dre was gonna be involved," Bass said. "[Dre] was a big star in '98. He was freaked out. 'Oh my god, I can’t believe it!' Me and my brother were excited. 'Dr. Dre wants to talk to us!' And Marshall went out to L.A. with my brother first. They got there a week before me. And it started immediately. Meeting Dre, talking with Jimmy, meeting all these people, this whole crazy period. I think it was February of ‘98." 

Jeff Bass Discusses Eminem's Marriage With Former Wife Kim

During the interview, Jeff Bass also spoke about Eminem's marriage with his former wife Kim and the long-standing friendship he built with the rapper. 

"He’s been with me since ‘95," Bass said of Eminem. "When he was a young buck. I was with him when Hailie was just born. I knew Kim. She used to come into the studio with us all the time. We used to take Marshall out to the different clubs in Detroit. She would come with us, be her crazy self." 

Bass was also asked if the couple was dysfunctional. 

"It was always obvious," Bass said. "He basically lived with us in the studio on 8 Mile road. And you got to know the person. We had to deal with his mother. We had to deal with Kim. We had to deal with uncles and friends trying to be hangers-on. You really get to know a person. And it was amazing. As he would come up with the stories [on the songs], those of us who were close to him working on the project, we knew there was so much truth in what he was saying. That’s pure emotion. That’s realism. And he told it like he was speaking to every kid out there that was going through the same thing. He was their voice. It was quite incredible."

In addition to his songwriting and production credits on various Eminem albums, Bass also appeared on various Eminem skits, including "Soap," "Lounge," and throughout "Bad Meets Evil," off The Slim Shady LP

RELATED: Eminem "The Marshall Mathers LP 2" Release Date, Cover Art, Tracklisting & Album Stream

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  • Anonymous
    GAYYY
  • Anonymous
    Jeff Bass sided with Ja Rule, so Em said see ya.
  • livemon
    Didn't these guys file a lawsuit against Interscope? There's more to the story as to why they don't work together anymore. It's too bad because Eminem's best music came from when he worked with the Bass Brothers (SSLP, MMLP, TES). The beats he chooses now sound amateurish and his albums lack consistency. No one he's worked with since the Bass Brothers have helped his sound.
    • John Shux
      AGREE !!
  • Anonymous
    That's why Recovery and MMLP2 sounded like shit. Well, it was more pop oriented than anything he's put out throughout his whole career. I honestly hated the new release and I used to love Em's work prior to relapse. The bass brothers made him who he was along with Dre. We all know Dre likes to take credit in everything he does. What slightly bothers me is that he went to other high profile producers to make a shitty album where you're screaming in most of it. Get back with your camp, do a little drugs, and make an album that worth listening to. Rick Ruban damn near did a Yeezus on your shit. How did you let that happened?
    • Techneeque
      MMLP2 Is the best thing that happened to today's hip hop,he is being totally real with tracks like Legacy and Stronger than I am.
  • Ruby Rice
    up to I looked at the paycheck saying $8258, I didn't believe that my best friend had been really bringing in money in their spare time from there labtop.. there moms best frend haz done this for only 8 months and just paid for the depts on there villa and got a gorgeous BMW 5-series. useful reference www.Fb39.Com Totally agree with Reece... He always bitches about how much he hates rap and the industry.. Yet still drops shit, then bitches about it some more. Your young motherfucker, go get a degree or some shit, goddamn.
  • Anonymous
    I BEEN KNEW THIS
  • Freda Carter
    just before I looked at the receipt of $7368, I have faith that my sister had been realey bringing home money parttime from there new laptop.. there uncles cousin has done this 4 only 19 months and by now paid for the debts on their villa and purchased themselves a Nissan GT-R:. Related Site www.Fb39.Com Was this a fucking joke? haha These tools couldn't rhyme their way out of a fucking paper bag... and mentioning Hailie that's just stupid...
  • Anonymous
    Fuck Rick Rubin, Fuck Dre & fuck all those other bubble gum producers Slim is constantly using nowadays. Get back together with The Bass Brothers and make more classics.
    • Anonymous
      Fuck Dre? oh you silly cunt.
    • COME-ON-SON
      Fuck Dre An Rick Runin? those 2 guys alone did more for hip hop then u ever will.. em has evolved past the days of his underground roots an to be in this biz u gotta sell records if not u will be replaced quick. pop music mean popular music.. would u rather him underground not selling anything? if not for him being popular would u even know who Eminem was?.. think before talking or at least do the research
    • Aim80
      I'm so glad other people realize that, that "pop music" means "POPULAR music"... just like POPULAR culture, POPULAR art, etc... the word "pop" is just an abbreviation. Rap music became HIP pop... because in the late 70's early 80's "hip" was "cool" and rap music was "hipper" than the "pop" at the time... Eminem is SO evolved now, i cant even understand how people (or his "fans") can be so disappointed in his more recent shit. It's the TIGHTEST it's ever been! The writing and structure of his bars are just fuckin phenomenal right now... and his songs are so much more deep and complex than just a typical boom-bap beat, with 16 bars, chorus, 16 bars, chorus, 16 bars, end. I think this new album is a little ahead of its time and what people want or expect. Because when i first "Berzerk" i wasnt sure how i felt about it... initially it came off as "noisy" to me. But as you listen a few more times, you realize that the whole thing is flawless, everything's so on time and on point, it SOUNDS like mess, but it's really like orchestrated chaos. And he even says "Dumb it down, i dont know how... at least i know that i DONT know, question is: are you bozos SMART ENOUGH TO FEEL STUPID... hope so."
    • majisu
      nah nigga fuck u...Dre Day all day
  • Anonymous
    get back with the bass brothers, and bring out an album worthy of your respect & status forget rhyming fast, forget techno-poppy beats forget worthless features and have limited ones that work - rihanna? skylar grey? How about RBX and obie trice? Where's the 'Marshall Mathers' songs? Where's the 'Say Goodbye Hollywood's' ? Disappointing, but hey! We want his old shit, why don't we buy his old albums?
  • Anonymous
    he looks like Mike from breaking bad...
    • Anonymous
      STFU and let me die in peace..
    • Anonymous
      LOL i can kinda see that
    • Dude
      I thought it was Mike, I clicked the link on FB because I thought the same thing!
  • mario
    his best music was with these guys . unfortunately like so many artist they abandon chemistry for big names and big names not always better
    • Chuck Niddy
      co-sign 100%
    • Anonymous
      if you were makin music with the same producer for 10 years, and youre the biggest rapper of all time, I think you'd wanna experiment and see what else there is to offer. its no disrespect. Everyone does it.
    • Anonymous
      ^^to add to what the puppy nose white boy said above me... they changed too... not just eminem
    • Anonymous
      how can you tell ones skin color from an anonymous post
  • Kai
    Something about this guy's version of events doesn't quite tally with what I know. Eminem also worked with a producer/rapper from Detroit called Hush (he's still active today), and one of the tracks they worked on together appeared on the Slim Shady EP credited entirely to the Bass Brothers. Shady (pardon the pun) stuff like that may have played a part in Em's move away from them. That and the fact that he was working with the likes of Dr Dre, obviously.
    • sam snead
      yup, hush is founder of a non-profit called Detroit Dog Rescue and produced the song we shine off infinite. which eminem still wants him to pay to use 15 years later, they also screwed DJ butter like that, that's why eminem is not around detroit hip hop circles because he boinked some people on his way up. Bassmint productions has worked with Em for a long time though.
    • Anonymous
      dude got paid off that upfront money... he didnt want the publishing yo. stop gossiping
    • sam snead
      Well Thats what Hush told me so it's not gossip,yo
  • COCA
    "Thats pure emotion. Thats realism. And he told it like he was speaking to every kid out there that was going through the same thing. He was their voice. It was quite incredible." THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT EMINEM IS MISSING TODAY.
    • Anonymous
      I don't know about you, but I can certainly hear the emotion and realism in songs like Wicked Ways, Headlights, Desperation, Beautiful Pain, Legacy, Bad Guy. It just depends on the song.
  • Cealix
    I swear some of y'all are dumb. The Bass brothers wrote the notes, not the lyrics.
  • COCA
    THIS IS [HONESTLY] THE MOST INSIGHTFUL ARTICLE I'VE READ ON THIS WEBSITE IN A VERY LONG TIME.
    • shaolin
      true story bro
    • Anonymous
      really good interview
  • Hiphop fraud
    lol so the so called rapgod writes his songs togehter with the Bass Brothers. Another fraud in hiphop.
    • jake
      they wrote the musical notes to the songs....they didn't write his lyrics.
  • Anonymous
    Bass Brothers were songwriters. So basically they helped Eminem writings his lyrics?
    • Anonymous
      NO, JUST THE MELODIES....
  • Anonymous
    Eminem has made wack music since he stopped working with the bass brothers. Dre and the bass brothers made a classic with slim shady lp. Eminems best album.
    • vg
      Slim Shady LP his best album? You must be on drugs... it's no where near the Marshal Mathers LP or The Eminem Show
    • Anonymous
      i wouldn't say no where near, but those are better
    • Anonymous
      I would disagree i think Slim Shady LP is his best album but in all honesty MMLP,SSLP, and TES are almost interchangeable when it comes to his best album.
  • Anonymous
    Bass Brothers, probably one of the most underrated production teams of all time. Some idiots still think dre made all the beats on his first three albums