Bubba Sparxxx Says White Forces Helped Pioneer Hip Hop

posted Friday November 01 ,2013 at 01:00PM CDT | 58 comments

Bubba Sparxxx Says White Forces Helped Pioneer Hip Hop

Exclusive: Bubba Sparxxx discusses Lord Jamar's comments about white rappers being "guests in the house of Hip Hop."

In a video interview released via VladTV September 21, Lord Jamar took platinum-selling artist Macklemore to task while also addressing class division, homosexuality and other topics.

“White rappers, you’re coming to this almost as a guest,” Lord Jamar said. “As a matter of fact, you are guests in the house of Hip Hop. Just because you have a hit record, doesn’t give you the right—as I feel—to voice your opinion.”

In an exclusive interview with HipHopDX that detailed his hiatus from music and battles with drug addiction, Bubba Sparxxx responded to the Brand Nubian member’s comments.

“I have the utmost respect for someone like Lord Jamar,” Bubba said. “He’s one of my predecessors in this, and I would never deny that at its core and the foundation of Hip Hop culture…it started predominantly as a black and Latino thing. But white people have always been present in Hip Hop since the very beginning. You can’t say that white people haven’t been around since the beginning. There are some very pioneering forces that are white.”

Bubba Sparxxx Says He Chose To Take Color Out Of Hip Hop

As it regards his own personal stance, Bubba Sparxxx added that he chooses not to prioritize skin color, and he thinks others will make the same choice.

“I myself chose to take color out of it, but if someone wants to continue to draw those lines, people keep erasing them,” Bubba said. “I don’t see where you can draw that line with anything more than a pencil, because those lines continue to get more and more blurry. But at the root of what he is saying, it’s not untrue.”

Aside from his own personal dealings with the likes of the Dungeon Family and Timbaland—the latter served as the Executive Producer on Bubba’s album, Deliverance—Sparxxx noted his manager Bobby Stamps. Sparxxx pointed to Stamps as someone who had been going to various records stores and supporting independent Hip Hop in the South since 1980. Additionally, Sparxxx also questioned the link between consumerism and participation.

“If white people are purchasing and buying Hip Hop over a period of five to 10 years, its only logical to assume and know that if they are consuming it, they are eventually going to be influenced by it and want to participate in it,” Bubba Sparxxx said.

After gaining prominence with his Billboard Top 20 single “Ugly,” Sparxxx’s Dark Days, Bright Nights album was certified gold by the RIAA in 2001. His 2006 single “Ms New Booty” peaked at #7 on Billboard magazine’s “Hot 100” chart, and was certified gold by the RIAA after a 24-week stay on the charts. Bubba’s latest album, 2013's Pain Management, is available now via BackRoad Records/Average Joes Entertainment.

RELATED: Bubba Sparxxx Addresses Overcoming Drug Addiction & Relaunching His Career

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  • Anonymous
    i hate all this whites this and blacks that, as if each can be reduced down to some singularity. no one has ever asked to be born, let alone being given the choice as to the skin color we would bear throughout life. i hate racism & i am often (if not everyday) embarrassed by what whites do because of ignorance and privilege & hate the fact that i get lumped into their whiteness just because i am white. but really Afrika Bambaataa stole "Planet Rock" from Kraftwerk (a german synth band). there was a court settlement. i still love it
  • Bull Frog
    reverse racism kinda like time........fall back...JUST BECAUSE!?!.....society told you to...
  • Anonymous
    Do y'all think BruthaDee cries when he thinks about slavery?
  • BrothaD
    Salsa music isn't Latino music it's actually Caucasian music Karate isn't an Asian martial art it's actually a Europeon martial art Samurai isn't a Japanese culture it's actually white American culture Im a Caucaaian American and last year I visited a Native Amrican reservation and spent many months learning their ceremonial rain-dance, now I travel the world making money mimicking their chants and dancing. A Native American man asked me abut the rain-dance and I told him it wasn't Native American culture it was actually Caucasian-American culture and everybody else's culture because we learned it. The Native American man tried to tell me that the rain-dance was his culture and that I was simply a guest using a cultural artform his people created. I laughed in his face and told him the culture was mine and that I was the first person to do a rain-dance with women's clothes on and in the future I would use homosexual gestures while I performed the dance. The Native American man looked saddened and asked me why I would inject those things into his culture and I told him to study the Opium wars in China and the British Raj in India, I told him to study Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I told him to study the Holocaust and the Berlin conference. I told the man to research the history of his own people. You see, HipHop is not an African-American cultural artform created by African-Americans its a white musical artform created by suburban whites to express themselves in a white world.
    • Anonymous
      blacks were the ones that introduced womens clothes and homosexuality to hip-hop
  • ...
    Somebody educate Bubba on the history of appropriation of black music by white artist in this country. lol at he "chose to take color out of it". You're one man, you think you can take color out of anything that goes on in this country you're in severe denial.
  • Andrew
    White Power Whites run this niggrs...u porch monkeys were our slaves be lucky we let u rap that crap...whites made it an art
  • anger manager
    POINT BREAK MADE
  • Anonymous
    Beastie boys? they are not white?
  • Anonymous
    "White people should denounce Hiphop and forbid all white people from buying rap records, and see how far it gets. Ignorance at it's finest from Lord Jamar. Some black people make it so hard for white people to respect and take the black community seriously. Does anybody deny that Hiphop is black culture? I doubt it, so why even bring this up? Blatantly hating on Mackelmore becuz he's white...sounds a lot like racism to me. Jamar's time has come and gone, who gives a fuck what an old washed up racist mc has to say?" ^ YES! PLEASE go away, we can stand the true believers and the music will be WAY better. And we can have REAL conversations with music lovers that were present not even 3 years ago on the internet before you weirdos starting taking an interest. Now let me tell you the TRUTH white boy, the community don't care about you like how you stalk us. This is a rap music site, music influenced by Kool Herc, BDP, Bambataa, Run DMC, Dipset, etc, not grunge music that Cobain made popular. Why you here on niggas dicks stalking articles and you look down on them? Tells me a whole lot about YOU and how you get down out there.
    • Anonymous
      Your full of hatred towards the white man. I understand that because judging by your ignorant rants, you aren't as successful as you aspire to be and blame everything on the white man keeping you down.
  • Anon
    White people are the ones who make moves though. They in a way "HELPED" the idea of spreading hip hop music, but they in no way shape or form created it. We created it's roots as well, Jazz was a creation of black culture as well as rhythm and blues. So what white force is this in reference to? The white force that got niggas to throw their life away claiming they sell crack and shoot people? The white force that is responsible for the wide spread of idiocy amongst the black culture?
  • 3HEADEDMONSTAH
    HIP HOP WILL ALWAYS BE THE ART THAT BLACK MEN AND WOMEN CREATED TO EXPRESS FEELINGS. THAT'S WHAT TRUE HIP HOP IS. A LOT OF THESE TRUE WHITE HIP HOP MCS LIKE MC SEARCH, BEASTIE BOYS, EM, BUBBA, YELAWOLF, MGK, RITTZ, MAC MILLER, WERE INVOLVED WITH THE URBAN AREAS AND DEALT WITH THE SAME LIFE, THESE BLACK MEN AND WOMEN EXPRESS THROUGH HIP HOP. THAT'S ALL HIP HOP IS. EXPRESSION OF THE URBAN COMMUNITY. LAST TIME I CHECK I HAVE WHITE, ASIAN, AND HISPANICS LIVING IN MY COMMUNITY THAT STRUGGLE WITH EVERYDAY LIFE JUST LIKE US BLACKS. HONESTLY BLACKS HAVE IT A LITTLE WORST, BUT EVERY BODY STRUGGLES. I ONLY AGREE WITH LORD J WHEN IT COMES TO ARTISTS LIKE MACKLEMORE. HE IS NOT TRUE HIP HOP. HE IS A RAPPER YES. BUT HE IS A POP RAPPER THAT'S TRYING TO USE HIP HOP AS A POP FORM. NOT HAPPENING FOR ME. DID HE GROW UP IN AN URBAN COMMUNITY. STRUGGLE WITH HARD LIVING. NO HE DID NOT. PROOF: HERE IS IT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macklemore ..HE HAD BOTH PARENTS AND AN GOOD EDUCATION. SHOULD THAT BE A REASON TO DOWN GRADE HIS SO CALLED CRED TO BE A RAPPER. NOT AT ALL. BUT HE IS NOT HIP HOP. ITS SAD HOW HIP HOP HAS CHANGED. BUT HEY IT IS WHAT IT IS. I LOVE EMINEM AND THINK HE IS A MASTER OF BEING A LYRICAL BEAST. BUT RAPPERS LIKE MACKLEMORE IS NOT MY CUP OF TEA. BUT YELA, RITTZ,MAC MILL, BUBBA,DA BEASTIE BOYS, AND MC SEARCH MAN I FUKS WITH THEM. THEY ARE TRUE HIP HOP. THEY LIVE THAT LIFE. BUT THIS HIP HOP ART WILL ALWAYS BE AN ART OF EXPRESSION FROM THE HEART OF MEN FROM THE STREETS. FROM LIFE STRUGGLES. THAT'S HIP HOP. THAT'S REALNESS. MY OWN OPINION. NOW LETS BUMB SOME PAC, CUBE, BIG AND PUBLIC ENEMY SHALL WE.
  • Anonymous
    SORRY BUBBA BUT YOU WRONG ON THIS ONE!!!!!
    • Anonymous
      Nah, he's right.
  • Anonymous
    white people was trying to ban rap when it was local then when it got mainstream they jumped on the bandwagon they wasnt apart of hiphop from the beginning 1980 is not the beginning
    • Anonymous
      not all white people were tying to ban it im sure a lot of black people thought it was pretty wack too
    • Moot
      I know Rick Rubin is an individual but he was there on several levels..
  • Anonymous
    white people bin taking someone elses creation and trying to make it theres since the beginning of time they even stole AMERICA!
    • Master
      The fuck are you doing on my computer boy! Get back outside and mow my lawn niggger
  • Shovel
    DX getting worse naming their stories. Doing what you can to drive traffic to the site huh? Incase y'all didn't know they have software to see what you viewed before & after visiting this site.
  • Shovel
    What was that rap track Blondie dropped that got radio play back in the 70's?
    • nafan
      It was called Rapture and it was one of the first pop records with rapping on it that got major airplay. it came out in 1981 or 1982 not the 70s. A classic new wave track. sample and covered by krs one in 1997 with 'step in to the world'.
    • Anonymous
      that is not hip hop so that dont count lmao
    • Anonymous
      lol, look at these uninformed clowns the first thing in Deborah Harry's "rap" IS "FAB FIVE FREDDY" and she name drops "FLASH is bad, Flash is cool" (Grandmaster Flash)" Rappers Delight was '79, Rapture was '81. Even The Breaks by Kurtis Blow was '80. How was Rapture more major when it came afterwards? Because her band was know by whites? LOL, you're telling on yourself. And Rapture has gotten plenty of spins in the Hip Hop world little boy. STFU if you don't know Hip Hop history. End of the day, Bob Dylan was at the MLK march, but he ain't help pioneer civil rights. You culture vulture guests are starting to show your skin, why they said early don't let you f*ckers in, accept those who are true to the game, and many of you pussies ain't, you just wanna claim superiority.
    • Bull Frog
      ignorance is often thrown out there on purpose.this earth will never see past color no matter what anyone says. Bubba was asked this question only because he's white. "All The Same"
  • truth
    white people run the labels, white ppl produce hits, white ppl can rap lyrically better.. runnin shit
    • Anonymous
      Bruahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    • Anonymous
      you smoking crack dummy do your history i bet you started litening to hiphop in 2003
  • OnkelMichael
    Lord Jamar faggot what about Paul C? hahaha
  • EarthToneDaProducer
    Great Fucking Response....
  • Anonymous
    Vlad is a instigator,Lord Jamar never said white people with skills cant do Hip-Hop,Vlad def mis-inform these brothers,devils always wanna put brothers and sister against one another.Blacks created Blues,Jazz,Country,Rock,Soul,HipHop all of America's music point-blank true facts,Africans created the first string instruments,.Dr.Carter G.Woodson book"Mis-Education Of The Negro" is still real in 2013.CHECK OUT"CHAMPION OF G'Z"reverbnation/crownking
    • Anonymous
      vlad is just trying to get as many views as he can! more views = more money
    • LORD SCUNTOS
      Black people did not create every goddamn thing. You are one of those black supremacist cult idiots that have read to many conspiracy sites. If blacks created and loved rock music so much they would actually fuck with it, but they don't. A black man invented the drum, but that don't mean he invented ever rudiment (if you even know what that is). Calm your tribal garb wearing outdated ass down and get with the times dummy.Ya dig!
  • Anonymous
    BruthaDee chill out you making your whole race seem lame
    • DarkoPolo
      when he was a young boy his father left his mother and the rest of his family for a white woman! ever since then he's hate deep hatred for everything white!
  • RobertsVision
    I actually liked his 2nd album..
  • @DeeHavior
    At the end of the night hip hop came from the belly of the less fortunate, black, latino, & white people from the ghetto. FUC color lets just get back to the days of when meaningful records could get play on the radio & influence the culture. New generations of kids are being raised to the current style of hip hop & one day they will run the world, lets give them some substance to grow to in addition to the partying & lyricism @DeeHavior
  • Really?
    White people should denounce Hiphop and forbid all white people from buying rap records, and see how far it gets. Ignorance at it's finest from Lord Jamar. Some black people make it so hard for white people to respect and take the black community seriously. Does anybody deny that Hiphop is black culture? I doubt it, so why even bring this up? Blatantly hating on Mackelmore becuz he's white...sounds a lot like racism to me. Jamar's time has come and gone, who gives a fuck what an old washed up racist mc has to say?
    • Anonymous
      fuck yeah. if white people stopped buy hip-hop records none of these guys would be driving maybachs and bentleys from rap. they would have to go back to the slums and feed their own people crack!
    • wholetruth
      That would be great. I hope whites denounce hip hop so better music will be produced. WHites have destroyed hiphop. Without whites there would also be no crack( a white invention) or guns ( a white invention)and blacks can get back to peaceful living in harmony with nature before the white devils showed up.
    • A Person
      Guns are a 14th century Chinese invention actually, whites just made them more deadly (so same shit basically, but history is good to know)
    • Anonymous
      I agree that whites should denounce HipHop and forbid themselves from buying rap records, let's see how far Eminem and Mackelmore get with their gay agenda. Black folks were Break-dancing, DJing, B-boying, Beat-Boxing, and doing Graffitti long before whites started buying HipHop albums and we will continue to express ourselves through those cultural artforms with or without white support. It was only a matter of time before a white brought faggotry into the culture and made a platinum fag-friendly song, it's just what they do.
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