The Hip Hop Week In Review: Perception Of Tech N9ne Fans & Scarface Lashes Out

posted Saturday April 27 ,2013 at 10:32AM CDT | 22 comments

The Hip Hop Week In Review: Perception Of Tech N9ne Fans & Scarface Lashes Out

Tech N9ne says his music reaches black fans, while Scarface says Hip Hop has been whitewashed, and Nicki Minaj hopes Gucci Mane gets help.

This week, Tech N9ne spoke with HipHopDX about the perception that his brand of music doesn't reach black fans. Meanwhile, Scarface said that the decision-making power in music labels has been taken away from the black community. Finally, Nicki Minaj hopes someone can help save Gucci Mane from himself.

Tech N9ne Says There Is A "Big" Disconnect Between His Music And Black Culture

Tech N9ne's brand of music has a diverse following. However, the king of independent Hip Hop believes that he needed, and needs, help reaching black fans.

"Even on my new song with T-Pain, the first single we released off Something Else, it’s called 'B.I.T.C.H.' Breaking In To Colored Houses," he said to HipHopDX. "That’s what I needed T-Pain to do. Give me a chorus that’ll help me break into black folk’s house through that TV. They see me on that TV like, 'Woah, that’s that Tech N9ne dude!' The first thing I said on that song was, 'Putting all the facepaint I can put on.' I’m not changing even on the song where I’m breaking into colored houses. It’s me. I’m breaking into your house like me. Not something that you’re used to—something else."

Tech N9ne admitted to a disconnect between his music and black culture. "Yeah, a big one. But you got a lot of black folks coming to my show now and saying, 'Not all us are missing you.' And I am a lot different than the regular rapper. That artwork? No, not a regular rapper. They say that looks like Rock N’ Roll, Ozzy Osbourne, Megadeath, Alice Cooper shit. I have those influences. I’m not going to change that. I’m not the everyday run-of-the-mill. So just imagine how everyone felt when they saw me on the BET Cypher, 'That’s the same motherfucker?' That’s so beautiful to me. You can’t stop it no matter how much you talk shit about it, saying, 'That’s the devil shit.' Here I am. I’m going to keep on popping up."

Scarface Believes "Hip Hop Is White Now"

Scarface had an outspoken week as well, as the legendary Southern rapper explained his believe that Hip Hop is no longer in the hands of the communities that started it.

"I feel like we losing it," said Face. "I feel like the people that are in control of what Hip Hop does is so fucking White and so fucking Jewish and so they don't give a fuck about what the culture and the craft really is about."

Uncle Face continued, providing no qualifications for his inflammatory words. "Let me say this shit right because I want this to be as offensive as I can fuckin' make it for these old-ass punks that's running these record labels that's in the powerful positions to dictate what the Black community hears and listens to. I fucking hate that shit. That shit pisses me off," he said.

Scarface explained that the lack of diversity in the decision-making positions at labels is not an accident. "There's no fucking way that you can tell me that it's not a conspiracy against the Blacks in Hip Hop. You put out fucking records that make us look stupid. You make us look dumb. You brainwash a generation of Hip Hoppers with this fucking crud and then when these other rappers come out, splitting it down the middle, these other rappers' shit sound like 'Wow!' Y'all look great!' 'Y'all look stupid!' ... Then mothafuckers start going over here and pretty soon, Hip Hop is White now."

Nicki Minaj Calls For Gucci Mane Intervention

Nicki Minaj can be counted among those concerned about Gucci Mane's well-being. After beefing with Waka Flocka Flame and ending up in prison, Gucci has had a trying year. Nicki spoke on the matter, highlighting her belief that Gucci needs help.

“So, it’s like I separate Gucci the artist from Gucci the person. Gucci the person is a sweet, loving, carefree, funny, hardworking dude. And so I never really paid attention to anything he said,” Nicki explained. “In terms of intervention, I think about how talented he is and I kind of wish there was somebody that could step in and say ‘Gucci, if you only knew how special you were. You would take a moment to really just get centered.’ I just think he really needs to center himself and not to point fingers because I’ve had moments when I needed to center myself. Sometimes you just need to be alone in a meditating type of place and to just kinda block out all the other noise.”

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  • J-Smooth
    I been on Tech N9ne since he was on the Gang Related soundtracc and he even came to my High School when I was in the 9th grade
  • Dirsan
    Love my job, since I've been bringing in $87h I sit at home, music playing while I work in front of my new iMac that I got now that I'm making it online. All I do are easy tasks from this one cool site Rich4.Com_
    • Anonymous
      I don't think so. Your site sucks.
  • Anonymous
    "Wu has many a white fan" They're so old and irrevelant in today's market, it doesn't matter if they have Lakota Indians as fans.
  • Anonymous
    Questlove is a porchmonkey!! Questlove is a porch monkey!!! Fact!!v
  • Anonymous
    Questlove is a porchmonkey!! Questlove is a porch monkey!!! Fact!!!!
    • Anonymous
      roots going platinum and you're sitting on your computer
  • Anonymous
    Questlove is a porchmonkey!! Questlove is a porch monkey!!! Fact!!
  • ijustfuckedyomomma
    hip hop is still alive and well like the old days people.....IT's JUST NOW FOUND IN THE UNDERGROUND!!!!!!!! STOP LISTENING TO THE EVERYDAY RADIO!!!!! WATCH YOUTUBE, SEARCH PANDORA!!!!!!! DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • ;ff
    Shut up and get naked nicki
  • Anonymous
    Tech Nine is evil personified.
    • s
      shut the fuck up go pray somewhere
  • ERASE RACISM
    music has no color-redman.....what scarface said was so fuckin stupid...i know he has some white fans but when he sells and he makes money out of white people i guess thats aight for him because he dont give a fuck he just wanna make money...he should put a sticker on each cd of his if you white or fuckin jewish dont buy...getdafuq outta here scarface...i neva was a fan of face he was aight but now he definetely lost my respect because he is a punk ass bitch....how can the fuckin fans ruin hip hop?and specificly the white ones!no the black and the other races dont blame them no!scarface is a racist idiot..dumb ass...whenever i got to the mall i see both black and white but mostly black with skinny jeans and swag t shirts and caps and whatever the fuck fashion is...they listen to lil wayne nicki minaj shit...scarface is just a pussy because he wanna blame the fans and not the artists...blame lil wayne,gucci bitch,kanye bitch,tyga,nicki minaj and all those motherfuckers that destroy hip hop...but you aint real to go against them like 2pac,immortal technique would do...so shut the fuck up scarface asshole...and dont give us that i love hip hop but now its dead and shit speech because he dont got a fuckin idea what hip hop is..you think hip hop is anti white group...so final thoughts...FUCK YOU SCARFACE!
    • Anonymous
      Meanwhile Scarface knows and has broken bread with the legendary Rick Rubin. Also Scarface held a major label executive position for years, so if he has something to say about the inner structure and it's politics, people will listen. I can see exactly what he's saying. A couple of years ago The Black Eyes Peas were moving ridiculous units while rap was in a selling funk. Sell rap music to that crowd, now you have B.o.B., Lupe's Lasers, will.i.am doing several songs for Nicki Minaj, and whomever else is willing to switch it up for a check. And it's no secret who BEP's core fan base is. Ain't no more Steve Rifkinds, David Geffens, Rick Rubins, Lyor Cohens, Clive Davis', who grew with the music and invested in careers (Jimmy Iovine is the last). Y'all don't get it.
    • Anonymous
      That was an excellent point, now you have people outside of the culture that feel that if their ears are appeased? As an outsider? That it's palatable. That it could sell. Cause the more people that you can get that are unfamiliar to who you are the better, which often means people who aren't always deemed inclusive to the culture. So you then you get white people in the picture and they become a reliable consumer, which says a lot cause a lot of heads in Hip Hop just download their favorite artists album. Not many buy albums. And I hate to sound ignorant but white people do buy albums. For whatever their reason is. A white person buying Drake album or lil Wayne album definitely has a different mindset towards Hip Hop, no matter how you wanna dress up the enigmatic definition of how music is subjective. But! On the other hand some of the most devout Hip Hop fans in the world, undeniably, are juggalos, and most of them are white. Some are black, some are Native Americans. Here, in NM? There are a lot of Native American Juggalos and they are some of the most devout Hip Hop heads you will ever meet. But on the same note, that still suggests that there is a disconnect from black culture and Hip Hop. On the same note, the same breath, you can't deny there are Hip Hop artists that are intentionally destroying the culture with the "Best Intentions" from the inside out; YMCMB and all of them, who'll sell their souls for a preteen white girl to accept them. I have a theory that the only way that Hip Hop could be revitalized is if rappers start back again with repping their states and cities and standing for what they rep, and making sure they maintain their credibility from the bottom up. Bring back regionalism into Hip Hop and those particular sounds that come from particular parts of the states in the U.S. and bring back the intelligence and the fearlessness of taking on the criticism of being an aspiring Hip Hop artist. Too many rappers placate and plateau to a broad demographic and think that, so long as I can appease those fans, who buy my albums, and hate on those who do not buy my albums, I'll remain relevancy and money by maintaining my infamy.
    • Anonymous
      Great rebuttal. The issue here is the curriculum set to obtain the white rap listener/consumer, which boxes in the music and it's creativity. "Too many rappers placate and plateau to a broad demographic and think that, so long as I can appease those fans, who buy my albums, and hate on those who do not buy my albums, I'll remain relevancy and money by maintaining my infamy." ^ "Shark N*gg*s (BITERS)"-Raekwon feat Ghostface Killa Wu has many a white fan, but according to the new 2010-present curriculum, they would need a BEP sound with a Drake or Wayne verse to crack radio and be heard by said demographic on the Z100 radio playlist that's syndicated in all states.
  • Steve a "White Kid"
    scare face what you are saying is the most ignorant stupid shit I've ever heard. If anything white people are the ones keeping it the way it should be. maybe not record executives but the fans. If you were to go to a Gucci maine concert or a future concert, just anyone that just generally shitty or running hip hop its a predominantly black crowd. Now if you were to go to a Lupe fiasco or Kendrick Lamar or a Nas concert majority of the crowd is white. I went to rock the bells on randalls island in new York city. Nas, public enemy, the roots and more were there, all true hip hop artists and that crowd was 75% white so fuck you scarface you know jack shit it's all these young black hip hop artist like tyga fuckin up hip hop not white people so shut your fuckin mouth and get back in the studio and do something about it instead of pointing fingers at a race ruining your beloved hip hop.
    • Anonymous
      hey bro calm down bro
    • Aesop Rock fan
      I don't agree with what Scarface is saying- I don't believe in the illuminati or that the hip hop industry is anti black or anti christian or anti straight or any of that. And I don't think the mainstream rap right now is bad or used to make black people look stupid. But I also don't agree with you- steve. The roots, nas and kendrick lamar are what hip hop "should" be? And white people just happen to be the major supporters of that music? So basically you are telling black people what is best for them? You're saying people that listen to and make music like trap, hyphy, and any other hip hop that's not boom bap, "conscious", or "experimental" are wrong? You're saying that white people listen to "real," "intelligent" hip hop, and all those dumb black people are destroying the culture....huh....ok....
    • Anonymous
      ^^^ the lyrical content of "trap", "hyphy" etc. is garbage. if you think that's "good" then i feel sorry for you
    • Aesop Rock fan
      ^ you are racist, classist and closed minded. and what is "bad" "lyrical content?" is their music bad because of what they rap about? how does that make any sense? or do you just mean the lyrics in general? if tahts the case, maybe you need to listen more closely. Theres bad trap and hyphy rappers, and ones with boring, filler, and corny lyrics, but there are in any kind of hip hop. do you really think boom bap and alternative is superior? maybe you just hate people, and want to make excuses for yourself not being popular, so you call your self an "intellectual."
    • Anonymous
      absolutely true my friend what a fuckin prick I support all real hop artists I hate all radio rap.just lost mad respect for scarface what a ignorant racist douche